Category Archives: E-Cigarette

Vaping In The News 3-11-17

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Vaping In The News – March 5th – 11th, 2017

Cole-Bishop ~ Blog Fog ~ Dr Farsalinos ~ The Impact Of A Federal Cigarette Minimum Pack Price Policy ~ Simple Simon ~ Second Hand ~ Prohibition or Harm Reduction ~ HR1136 ~ Tobacco Associates hold 70th annual meeting in Wilson ~ Youth ~ Gary Wood ~ Tweet Of The Week ~ Vapers Tongue


Government, health organizations and special interest groups are counting on you to not pay attention. That’s the plan.

Don’t forget to set your clocks forward tomorrow. We get an hour less this week to fight the bastards.


Today the vapor industry joined together in support of Cole-Bishop.

  • Tony Abboud, Executive Director, Vapor Technology Association
  • Pamela Gorman, Executive Director, Smoke Free Alternatives Trade Association
  • Alex Clark, Executive Director, Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association
  • Gregory Conley, President, American Vaping Association

Read our letter to Congress



The Blog Fog Has Lifted

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In what may be the longest “rapid response” ever, there are now responses:

Other responses

All were insightful, this one caught my eye from Clive Bates.

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TWO from Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos:

First:

Prevalence and correlates of current daily use of electronic cigarettes in the European Union: analysis of the 2014 Eurobarometer survey

Second:

Irresponsible marketing by parts of the e-cigarette industry requires immediate measures


Because Price-Reducing Strategies Are There:

I love the “conclusion”. They don’t like alternatives. They don’t like Snus. They don’t like e-cigarettes. They don’t like roll-your-own…..but they certainly like a “Federal Minimum Pack Price “idea”… we need a pay raise.

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“Conclusion: A federal minimum price policy has the potential to greatly benefit tobacco control and public health by uniformly increasing the price of cigarettes and by eliminating many price-reducing strategies currently available to both sellers and consumers.”

Remember, e-cigarettes are now “deemed” tobacco in the United States:

Simple Simon

I absolutely love Dick Puddlecoat. You should as well. Simon, not so much. If he’d only use the mass between his ears…

The ‘Rigour’ Of Simple Simon


 2nd hand

Because who doesn’t like the idea of anything second-hand?

“EC use releases negligible levels of nicotine into ambient air with no identified health risks to bystanders”

What does e-cigarette vapor contain? Is it harmless to bystanders?



A Survey (on Twitter) for my friends in Australia:


Cole-Bishop: #HR1136

Cole-Bishop, one of the more important things in the industry.

“The e-cigarette industry is on the edge of a cliff, with Food and Drug Administration rules threatening to wipe out 10,000 small businesses and remove 99 percent of vapor products from the market in just 18 months’ time.”

A modest reform could mean life or death for the vaping industry


Robert Innes.

I adore Mr. Innes:

A very high percentage of the population kept on smoking which concerned the ones who wanted them to stop, so the ones who wanted smokers to stop invented Nicotine Replacement Therapies (NRT) which gave the smokers nicotine which was not addictive, and did not provide any fun – that was good.

Prohibition or Harm Reduction


I almost couldn’t believe my eyes…

Not often do I do a double-take, but this one was refreshing to see.

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“we believe that patients have the right to practical, empirical, and accessible information and facts. We are hoping that e-cigarettes will be treated by the New York DOH with the same amount of empirical scrutiny and moral impartiality as these other means of harm reduction.”

Concerned healthcare providers respond to New York Department of Health Commissioner’s remarks on e-cigarettes


Tobacco Associates hold 70th annual meeting in Wilson

Here’s an interesting insight to the tobacco market and its own view on the upcoming years, and they don’t seem too concerned.

“Brown said the jury is still out on the e-cigarette industry’s impact on the U.S. combustibles market”

Strong profits predicted for tobacco growers


Youth:

I’ve often thought we should just ban children. Ankle-biting rugrats seem to have made some sense in this!

Avoiding or reducing the harm of tobacco cigarettes is the top reason youth vape, according to data from a survey by the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) and analyzed by PinneyAssociates.

Youth Vape to Reduce Harm From Tobacco Cigarettes Over Availability of Flavors


 Tweet Of The Week (TOTW)

(Not me, Eciggity!)


Suicide or Vaping? – You Decide

Now I know drug companies have to list ‘possible’ side effects, however, when you see just what these so called ‘safe’ stop smoking drugs are capable of doing to the user – you’ll ask yourself just why they’re ‘approved’ and vaping is not.

Suicide Or Vaping? – You Decide


Gary Wood:



The Tobacco Control Prayer

Big Vaping headquarters just unearthed the Tobacco Control Prayer!


In Other News

You can imagine my surprise when CDCTobaccoFree “liked” one of my tweets in response to using my survey to SmokeFreeUS@NCI

This one’s going on my “I love me” wall!

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Stranger things have happened:

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Vapers Tongue

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Ideas and inspiration comes in many forms for me many times from you.

There still, to my knowledge, is no “right” way to “fight” or advocate.  If you’re worn down, read This, via Chris Price:

The Vaping Advocate’s Rules For Campaigning

or this, via Clive Bates:

Memo to public health grandees: vaping, vapers and you

I know two things. I will not stop. I will not give up.

We, and millions like us who don’t know better, are too important.


The latest from me:

Professionals Just “Don’t Know Enough” About E-cigarettes


 

NEWS from my friends across the pond: Vapers.org.uk.

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Medical, Research, Science Professionals:

Research:


Politics:

E-Cigarette Politics 


Consumers Groups:

A Billion Lives

This isn’t over:


 

Your comments are NEVER filtered, always encouraged and welcome on this blog.

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Top 10 “things” that piss me off about #ecigs.

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You know what pisses me off aside from the obvious? A lot. I don’t like that. There’s nothing I can do about it, but it scorches my ass.

Certainly we all have pet peeves. Some things bother a few, a few things bother many, and this is my partial list.

There’s plenty more, but I’ve tried to narrow it down for time and space. If you’re not a regular reader, thanks for joining me. If I have to warn you about hurting your feelings or being offended, I just did.

Hydrate. Relax. It’s all in good fun. I hope you laugh, and then move on.

I know you’re excited, so here are my Top 10 “things” that piss me off about #ecigs.


#10. ENDS.

Your e-cigarette will NOT be referred to as an “Ends“. The “scientific” and “health” community likes to call them that. No. Because they’re idiots. They probably spent a million dollars in research to come up with that acronym because P.E.N.I.S. was taken.

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Please do not refer to your device, gear, rig, setup or e-cigarette as “ENDS”, unless you’re referring to it this way: Yes, that is  (pick any name – I call mine Martha)____, ___ “ends” my smoking.


#9. Journalists.

If you’re a public health expert, just go here

Journalists, I AM here to help.

Stop “describing an e-cig” to fill your word count. If you can’t figure out how to start an article without describing an e-cigarette for the first paragraph, adding in the children or other wibble quotes on the second, and repeating the same shit about the first two paragraphs for the remainder of the article, find another occupation.

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Do some investigative work. You know, your job. If you’re a “journalist”, get your balls from your significant other, bring them to your keyboard and grab the world by the scruff of the neck.

Bring your nose closer to the screen and find some research and science to write about. Instead of trying to kiss ass and pretend you’re right, try, and I know this sounds scary  – the truth.

Once that truth has slapped you upside your head, here’s a thought: Ask these people you quote what the health implications of deceiving the public will be. That should get you in to the big parties. Wear something nice.


#8. Everyone

(You too, Journalists)

Don’t refer to Stanton Glantz as a “scientist” or a Doctor.. He is neither. He wouldn’t know a beaker if he had one stuck up his ass.

He’s part of the reason smokers were freezing their ass off outside when they smoked.

He’s part of the Rotund Reaver Association.

He also needs to talk to the math department and take a class.

The other three goons- Capewell, Mckee and Chapman aren’t scientists, either.


#7. Smoking and OIL

People, your “e-juice” is not OIL. It is e-liquid. Happy juice if you must. It is not “oil”. I’ll accept e-juice, but cautiously. Only scientists, journalists and health “officials” can continue to say “oil” when referring to e-liquid.

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Don’t say “oil”. It separates us from those who drag their knuckles on the way to “work” and us common folk.

Vaping isn’t smoking.

Unless you use a pipe shaped vaping device, don’t get me started on “e-pipe”.


#6. Battery Safety

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If you’re going to continue to try to set yourselves ablaze, at least carry a bag of marshmallows with you at all times for your friends. For fucks sake. Stop trying to catch yourselves on fire.

If you DON’T want to stop yourselves from catching on fire and WANT to have your 15 minutes of fame – be productive and at least mention that you should’ve listened to CASAA’s advice to the news crews and the emergency crews who responded to your stupid ass lack of knowledge.


#5. “Marketing” to children

I don’t see this as much as I used to, but if you make your oil e-juice DAMMIT ~  e-liquid –  with cartoons plastered all over the bottle or are using copyrighted material, or intellectual property, you have no intellect and your juice is probably shit. Then you could be sued, and someone will take your property for stealing theirs.

Stop doing that. Vaping has enough problems looking legitimate without your half-assed dirty bath water. Oil. e-juice. Dammit. E-liquid! Irresponsible. It looks like you’re marketing to children whether you’re doing it or not. Change the label. Make your money. Be well.

PEOPLE, If it has cartoons on it, stop buying it.


#4. That’s Not Good Enough

I don’t CARE if you’re dual using or using a cig-a-like. I don’t CARE if you’re using a $400 mod or dripping or cloud blowing. Don’t dismiss anyone starting out, don’t dismiss or become a critic for the device someone else is using.

Everyone is different. They aren’t you. Some are not in the mood for your lecture – they already are on the same playing field using different equipment. They’ll “move up” if they like.

“You can smoke and vape. In fact, I encourage it. “Dual-use“.”

Some like the hassle-free convenience of cig-a-likes. Some like me, using an ego style battery and my little old CE4 – just want to not smoke. I’ve used an MVP, and I recently “inherited” an Istick 30 from my son. I like it, but carry my ego as well.

There’s a fine line between educating and berating. Kind of like this top 10 list.

Think of it this way: Imagine your Grandmother as SHE walked into a Vape Shop

Nicotine strength is next.


#3. Nicotine strength

Part I:

First, vape shops. Stop limiting nicotine strength with your product line. Remember who your first time customer is. If you have 0-9-12 but a customer would have succeeded with 14+ you’ve lost a customer. Sure, you sold them that bigass mod they were intimidated with and may never try again, but you’re paying bills. Stop that. Also look back up at #4.

Let Grandma feel comfortable. Stop scaring people.

Part II:

I know you’re living in a universe I left a few years ago, it’s nice to visit, but I wouldn’t want to live there again. So, PEOPLE:

NICOTINE IS —>NOT ADDICTIVE<—

Stop saying that it is…

#SorryNotSorry I screamed at you.

Thank you.


#2. BE aware of the fight

If you are a vendor – are you a member of a trade organization?

If you are a consumer – are you a member of a consumer organization?

Is your shop a member of a trade organization? ASK THEM!

Links are all over this blog for those. No excuses.

Tell your friends. Tell your neighbors. Talk to your cat. Put a sign on your dog while you walk him. Talk to others walking their dogs. Everyone needs to know what the government is doing – or more appropriately, trying to keep us and others from having a choice.


#1. You’re not loud enough

Start knowing. If you don’t know, read. Ask questions. TALK to people. Be educated. If I don’t know something, I ask questions. Find valid sources for your questions about ANYTHING. Legislative, safety, ingredients, research, or other questions you have. Then get LOUDER.


#HR1136

Put up your dukes.

Don’t be shy.

Make some noise.

Get LOUDER.

“Regulations should be based on evidence and the FDA doesn’t have the evidence to say that vaping is a harmful product.” ~ Congressman Tom Cole


The fight for ourselves is nowhere near the end. Educating EVERYONE from our local city government to the highest offices in the land is essential.

This is the most important thing in the United States at the moment for the vaping community:

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) Discusses the Cole-Bishop Amendment with Nicopure Labs

Here as well:

Cole and Bishop Introduce The FDA Deeming Authority Clarification Act of 2017

Here as well:

Hope for vapers: New bill could halt FDA e-cigarette prohibition

Pending here:

H.R.1136


My article on Vaping Media is here:

Vaping Regulations Should Be Based On Evidence: Cole-Bishop Amendment

 


E-cigarette NEWS Monday thru Friday is here

from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.



Comments are not filtered and are always welcome on this blog.


  • Medical, Research, Science ProfessionalsGO HERE

If you’re interested in learning about vaping products:




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I’m not shutting up.

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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Ecigs: Paradigm shift or Pavlov’s dog?

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Have you noticed a shift in in reporting in the United States about e-cigs? Have they completely lost their minds? No… If you start to notice it, there’s a reason. On August 8th, 2016, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) deemed nicotine as tobacco –  and took the reign over ecigs.

It’s mind-boggling how nicotine and such things as batteries being defined as tobacco products can make an expert think.



The public has suffered an onslaught of headlines, #fakenews and click-bait touting “A million more times harmful” and “formaldehyde”. A chorus of experts have sung everyone’s classic “Think Of The Children™ in tune to garner support.

Americans have been settling for less.

This change in the weather has taken a LOT of work. Health groups have been working in tandem to demonize e-cigs without fail to create the controversy, to control public opinion, to keep resistance to a bare minimum. Now it’s suppertime.

Not so long ago, e-cigs were bad. There are astounding examples and a great blog by Robert Innes about that here:

But I Am Hardly an Expert…





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Now, since the FDA has defined nicotine as a “tobacco product”, a paradigm shift has occurred. There must be one big-ass mass email of “ok folks, let’s roll the other way now” put out by tobacco control.

Not all, but some organizations are posting “less hateful” news. I predict more.


The government is serving pie.

 



*DING

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The bell has rung. They don’t care about safety, children, chemicals or your “journey” to stop smoking. Now they’re motivated. There is official drooling and control.

Please, smoke ’em if you got ’em- and now taxes of your vaping products will be sufficient.

The association with “safer” in the health world is the addiction trigger to all who, directly or indirectly operate with or, are funded by, tobacco tax –  as e-cigs become surprisingly more acceptable.

“When it’s over I predict that each camp will claim plausible deniability to the fact that it takes someone from smoking, keeps them from smoking, and keeps all involved from revenue unless it is deemed & taxed like a tobacco product.”

(Please, KEEP SMOKING! Plausible Deniability, an Incestuous Relationship.)

Get your napkins. The”taxing of nicotine” bell has rung.

You can almost hear the good intentions coming down tobacco roads.

You can almost smell fresh pie cooking. (Thanks FIG!)

UCSF Awarded $20M Federal Grant on Tobacco Regulatory Sciences

 


Comments are not filtered and are always welcome on this blog.


If you’re interested in learning about vaping products:


Please visit

A Billion Lives

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E-cigarette NEWS you can use… every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


If you are a Professional,  go HERE.


You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter

You can also find me on LinkedIn


More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

E-cigarettes: Smokers, knowledge is power.

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Fear is a lack of knowledge. Knowledge is power. To find valuable information – credible information  – about vaping and e-cigarettes isn’t difficult. You have to know where to look, understand information as it is presented to you, and use it to make decisions for yourself.

To begin your journey, to expand your knowledge, you have places to go.


There are hundreds, if not thousands of personal blogs covering vaping in the research, legislative, political, scientific, and personal arena of e-cigarettes.

Sharing information about e-cigarettes is essential, and for some, a passion to educate others with accurate and forthright information.


One individual (listed) schooled me quickly and privately about nicotine. I was drinking the kool-aid up to that moment and he opened my eyes to the vast and valuable opportunity of learning.

Another individual listed fired me up so much to fight, I started my own blog.

You don’t always have to agree with individuals in “every” instance, but be open minded, take their vantage point and learn.




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How we gain continuous knowledge about e-cigarettes, and what we need to learn via perspective from which it comes, holds weight. Not restrained with “deadlines”, angles or sponsors where there may be bias, individual consumers themselves have skill, direct impact and ability to communicate what needs to be said with vigor and style all their own.

Despite the vast claims “experts” manufacture, we, as individuals, are the experts.




This is an example of a journalist withholding knowledge and information  – from Sarah Knapton – Telegraph’s Science Editor.

It is yet another example of what we’re fighting against as individuals.




Personal bloggers

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These few, for different reasons, have their admirable style and grace. You can find humor, be outraged and find a gold mine of truthful information. Consumers all over the world are looking for the bad about e-cigarettes – just as hard as the good – and tell it like it is.

You can be engrossed in the veracity and tenacity of their views and learn.




Alan Beard

Alan Beard


Bruce Nye

Revelations of a Steam Powered Human


David Dorn

The Sun Also Rises


Deb Iten

Lounge Vapor


Fergus Mason

FergusMason.com


John Summers

GlosVaper


Lorien Jollye

The Exit Door Leads In


Meaghan C.

VapeMeStoopid


Morten Moe

The Vaping Giraffe


Neal Roff

Flow My Tears


Norbert Zillatron

Musings about vaping and science


Paul Barnes

Facts Do Matter


Robert Innes

Brainy Furball


Steve K

Steve K’s Vaping World


Vaping Point Liz

Vaping Point




Tobacco & Vaping

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These folks, in one form or another, are professionals with insight from another land. Clear cut, distinct and informative.

Atakan Erik Befrits

Atakan Befrits


Bernd Mayer

Bernd Mayer – A Scientists View about nicotine and tobacco


Brad Rodu

Tobacco Truth


Carl V. Phillips

Carl V. Phillips: Anti-THR Lies and related topics


Clive Bates


Dick Puddlecoat


Michael Seigel

The Rest of the Story




Writers

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Some, beyond a blog, are impeccable.

Daniel Hall / Vaping First

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Guy Bentley / Reason

Guy Bentley


Jacob Sullum / Forbes

Forbes / Jacob Sullum


James Dunworth

James Dunworth


Jim McDonald / Vaping 360

Jim McDonald


Jérôme Harlay / Vaping Post

Jérôme Harlay


Lee Johnson

Lee Johnson




You just want facts.

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Chris Price:

EVERYTHING e-cigarette and politics.

Ecigarette Politics


David Goerlitz

This blog is a must read for smokers and vapers.

David Goerlitz, The Former Winston Man


Dr Konstantinos Farsalinos & Team

~They~ say we “need more research”. Well. It’s here.

E-cigarette Research


M.O.V.E.

Doctors, Nurses, Researchers, Scientists. Medical Professionals. Period.

M.O.V.E.


Nicotine Science and Policy

MANY links within, the no-nonsense section of the world for nicotine/science & policy.

Nicotine Science and Policy


Tobacco Control Tactics

See the other side.

Tobacco Control Tactics


Vapers In Power

A political movement in the U.K.

Vapers In Power


Vapers.org.UK

Although the title says “UK”, this is a daily source of news gathering e-cig and tobacco news from around the world.

Vapers.Org.UK



You can go to these resources to expand your knowledge about e-cigarettes.



Final thoughts

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As an example of what is out there, there are many more doing things behind the scenes.

Everyone has a role in fighting – no matter what medium they use. The list of individuals and sites above is certainly not everyone. There are individuals writing and calling politicians, going to meetings. Starting websites. Educating their Doctors. Tweeting. Giving testimonies in court. With every breath you take, find that role.



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You can also find me on LinkedIn



More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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Controlling tobacco roads – paved with g̶o̶o̶d̶ intentions

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Health officials, politicians and distinguished “experts” have, with all intents and purposes, descended into subliminal tobacco promotion – pro bono. Nice work! Despite fictitious and contrived positions against tobacco, they have consumed themselves by demonizing e-cigarettes.

The tobacco companies didn’t have to ask. The pharmaceutical companies sit quietly on standby. Healthcare organizations are dancing in the streets – still bleeding from loss of revenue. Government officials can barely contain themselves.

By design, tobacco control and anti-tobacco are promoting the consumption and continued use of cigarettes by both not saying a word and perpetuating fake news.

They’ve become the largest single advertiser – denying, downplaying, discouraging and ignoring facts to consumers about vaping products.

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If less tobacco use is the collective goal, they would have intervened and promoted the 79% success rate of e-cigarettes LONG ago. Instead, they violate the blind trust of the public by manipulation of facts with their opinions. They want revenue.

Nothing says “please keep smoking” like leading consumers to believe high profile doctors like Dr. Oz with his latest, or Dr. Margaret Quomo’s claim that “e-cigarettes will raise your risk for lung cancer but also other cancers, like liver cancer”.

Other delusions of grandeur like “nicotine is highly addictive”, “oral health“, formaldehyde-gate, Popcorn-lung-gate, particulate matters and the ever popular gateway-gate are still standard operating procedure to keep doubt and control of the intent of public perception.

These are professionals with standards?

Added 4/23/17

Against All Odds, the U.S. Tobacco Industry Is Rolling in Money


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This please keep smoking advertisement comes from Senator Markey saying the “e-cig industry should be put out of business“.

Please, think of the children.

Scare the public with your faux authority, Ed. That leaves the choice obvious for consumers, Ed. Ban the safer alternative, keep smoking as the intent – you can see how Massachusetts needs smokers for the money.


Who’s left behind?

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See the smokers looking to switch in the rear view mirror?

To deviate from facts readily available to support a safer alternative to smoking is to act, with malice in promoting smoking and cigarette sales. Period.

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines


Two recent examples of less harm:

New study comes the closest yet to proving that e-cigarettes aren’t as dangerous as smoking

Nicotine, Carcinogen, and Toxin Exposure in Long-Term E-Cigarette and Nicotine Replacement Therapy Users: A Cross-sectional Study


The tragedy – since National Tobacco Day, nicotine is now “tobacco”, is that the public has to ACCEPT their definition of nicotine as tobacco, and in doing so, taxes will be, and already are, the norm. That is their intention.

In that, they get what they want either way, and the cost will be in line with – or higher than cigarettes. Think five years down the road. Legislators asking for the farm by passing insane tax measures – like in Pennsylvania.


They’ve done this before.

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This is not their first rodeo.

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We are obviously getting louder and harder to avoid.

The “Senate Co-Sponsorship Memoranda” introduced by Senator Camera Bartolotta does mention Public Health England and Royal College of Physicians.

Then – the guilty as charged get what they want (funding, balanced budgets) by appeasing – and “lowering the bar” while their intention is manipulating us into believing or having to accept the fact that consumers, smokers who may want to switch, are getting a “good deal”.

They’re not doing a very good job of trying to fight us.

 

 




Added 02/10/17:

Here’s bias in print:

Research Collaboration Uncovers Biases in UK/US Physician Discussions on E-Cigarettes

Added 02/10/17:

Please, keep smoking.

The FDA’s multi-million dollar campaign attacking smokeless tobacco is almost certainly leading to higher levels of disease by causing Americans to use far-more-hazardous cigarettes,” adds Sweanor.

That’s here:

Smokeless Doesn’t Mean Harmless’ campaign may be doing more harm, researchers argue




I question their integrity, I question their intent.

They are, after all, in the control business.

They want their piece of the pie.




I’ve written President Trump:

Dear President Trump: Stop the F.D.A.




Cole-Bishop Amendment




Comments are not filtered and are always welcome on this blog.


If you’re interested in learning about vaping products:


Please visit

A Billion Lives

August8th.org


E-cigarette NEWS you can use… every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


If you are a Professional,  go HERE.


You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter

You can also find me on LinkedIn


More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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E-Cigarettes: A Tobacco Harm Reduction Assessment

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Do you want to know if your “quit smoking” advice is sound? Do you believe you’re truly sincere about reducing tobacco use for Americans? Don’t you want to know you’re doing all you can? I certainly do.

I’ve devised this quick and easy interactive tool below for anyone in public health or tobacco control to assess the choices (and more) seen above for tobacco harm reduction, and your views.


Click on the link below, then click on your – or your association’s most likely “answer” you’d give to someone inquiring about switching to e-cigarettes in a phone call or in person.

Don’t be afraid.

E-cigarettes: A Tobacco Harm Reduction Assessment Tool


How’d you do?

Are you employing vigorous tobacco harm reduction methods to clients? I don’t believe you. Are you using a Strategy or Tragedy?

I wonder what those around you are thinking. Those people calling and asking questions? They’re going to figure this out eventually. There are millions of us. We’re getting louder and more pissed off with every single lie told. I’m tired of America settling for less.

If you’re a smoker, use this. Don’t be afraid of their answers.

“When tobacco use decreases, less smoking occurs.”

Comments are not filtered are always welcome on this blog.


Please visit

A Billion Lives

August8th.org


E-cigarette NEWS you can use… every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


If you are a Professional,  go HERE.


You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter

You can also find me on LinkedIn


More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

The health implications of e-cigs according to U.S. agency experts.

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Prestigious “non-profit agencies” such as the American Cancer Society, American Lung Association,  American Heart Association, Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids and all of their state and local “affiliates” are unwilling to stand up for the public, placing their fiscal priorities before public health.

Joining them are government agencies like the Centers for Disease Control & Dr. Tom Frieden (CDC), Food and Drug Administration (FDA) Surgeon General Murthy, Secretary Burwell, and MANY more who will not accept or endorse vaping products as a valid tobacco harm reduction choice.

Because you trust them.

They wouldn’t lie to you, they have your best interest at the core of your health.



Kevin, you can’t be serious!?!

Yep! As serious as a smoker wanting to quit.

They won’t endorse LESS smoking?

Not at all. Unless it is with an approved method.

For NO reason? Aren’t they’re supposed to help consumers? Guide them? Give them advice? Instead, we’re on our own?

Yep. You’d think the American public would need expect no less than balanced and up to date information, evidently that is not standard operating procedure with the United States “health” organizations and their vast network of “affiliates” – or the government.

Doesn’t that seem ODD to you?



Public Health thinks this is a win

I’d like to see a judge rule quickly, that non-profit “public health” & Government agency defendants have violated civil & federal racketeering laws as a result of a decade-long conspiracy to deceive the American public about the much less harmful effects of e-cigarette use and the knowledge of e-cigarettes being at least 95% safer.

In the past decade, the lack of honest and beneficial information being withheld on e-cigs by those above have resulted in continued tobacco use and thereby benefiting those involved with their fiscal decisions to continue their own revenues including taxes, grants, funding and investments by coercing public opinion with propaganda, while acting desperately to avoid responsibility for their actions.


“When tobacco use decreases, less smoking occurs”.


This letter, “signed by 53 leading scientists has warned the World Health Organization not to classify e-cigarettes as tobacco products, arguing that doing so would jeopardize a major opportunity to slash disease and deaths caused by smoking.”

That’s from Reuters, here.

In full via NicotinePolicy.net here:

Statement from specialists in nicotine science and public health policy

 


Update 1026/16:

AGAIN, responsible people in the world have now written this:

COMMENTARY ON WHO REPORT ON ELECTRONIC NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS AND ELECTRONIC NON-NICOTINE DELIVERY SYSTEMS

 


“The largest threat to is an informed consumer.”

Public Health

Public health refers to “the science and art of preventing disease, prolonging life and promoting health through organized efforts and informed choices of society, organizations, public and private, communities and individuals.” according to Wikipedia

  • Science and art of preventing disease
  • Prolonging life and promoting health through organized efforts

I’ve covered public health and their challenges they face with understanding harm reduction here.


“Health” organizations in the United States have been heavily opposing vaping products and have NOT endorsed them as tobacco harm reduction products because they are not “approved” by the FDA.

According to regulations released August 8th, 2016, it is illegal for retailers to give advice to consumers. They can’t do that anymore.


You’re not going to shut consumers or organizations up.

Here’s some examples:



THESE are national consumer and industry organizations in the United States who keep US informed.


 

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Thank you, Kat York!

That link is here: Who Is My Representative

 

 


Being an inquisitive soul, I decided all on my own over the past few months to ask this direct question on Twitter to MANY “experts”, including ALL of the above. To create a source of non-responses. Each account is active. Each account spouts something nearly every day. Each got the same or similar variant of the same question:

Any comment on the health implications of deceiving adult smokers with regs of #ecigs as “tobacco products”?


I want answers.


I’ve asked the Director of the Centers for Disease Control (CDC), Tom Frieden.

I’ve asked the Surgeon General, Vivek Murthy.


I’ve ASKED the President & CEO of the American Lung Association, Harold Wimmer:


I’ve asked CEO of the American Cancer Association, Gary Reedy:


I’ve asked “Truth Initiative”:

 


More than once, I’ve asked the American Heart Association CEO Nancy Brown:


I’ve asked the American Medical Association:


I’ve asked the Campaign for Tobacco Free Kids:


I’ve asked the Food and Drug Administration:


Among others, I’ve asked Senators Blumenthal and Boxer:


I’ve asked the PRESIDENT of the United States, Barack Obama:


I’ve asked tobacco control “expert” Professor Glantz:

 


I’ve asked former Centers for Disease Control Director, Michael Erikson:

 


Among other questions, I chose to ask Secretary Burwell to the premier of A Billion Lives:


Not only did I ask Sec. Burwell, I was hedging my bets – asking tobacco control “expert”  Ruth Malone, Dr. Judy Monroe (President/CEO of CDCFound) AND Margaret Cuomo to the premier of A Billion Lives.

There was not ONE response from ANY of these “agencies”. Not one.

No ANSWERS?  They’re the authority?

 

WHY is this acceptable?

WHY are we putting up with this?

WHY are they getting away with it?

 


IF

the claims by agencies of 480,000 deaths a year from tobacco and related disease is of concern to all of those above, they would do anything in their power to CHANGE that.

They don’t have that desire.

In order to keep the lie alive, their “defense” is, and their ONLY continued efforts and “concerns” are always focused on:

Nicotine. Children. Public Health. Funding.


WHY?

Because they WANT you to smoke.They are promoting combustible tobacco.

Here’s why:

WHO declined to be interviewed for A Billion Lives?


“If you care”

These are just some of the people in the United States government protecting the sales of cigarettes:

Dr. Robert Califf, Deputy Commissioner of the United States Food and Drug Administration’s Office of Medical Products and Tobacco since January 2015. He was appointed after his predecessor, Margaret Hamburg “left” the position, who is facing R.I.C.O. statutes.

Dr. Tom Frieden has been since 2009 the Director of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and Acting Administrator of the Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry.

Mitch Zeller, Mitch postures and “leads FDA’s efforts to reduce the disease and death from tobacco use and bring previously unavailable information about its dangers to light”.

Sylvia Mathews Burwell, the 22nd Secretary of Health & Human Services.

Surgeon General Vivek Murthy, MD, MBA, laughingly serves as America’s doctor, “providing info to improve public health



FDA Poised to Issue Rule that Will Be Devastating for Public Health, and Possibly Unconstitutional

Why Grover Norquist Won’t Stop Fighting for Your Right to Vape

E-cigarette news you can use

Every day ~ Monday thru Friday ~ is here from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.


You can find me here trying to be cordial on Facebook

You can find me here being a bit more evil on Twitter


Nicotine is not addictive.

David Goerlitz, The Former Winston Man: “The Gloves Are Off


Alerted to a new site, Consumers For Advocacy.

Please visit them here:

Consumers For Advocacy

More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Toxic Media. E-Cigarettes And Journalism.

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Journalists. They spit out low quality fairy tales as fast as an e-cigarette study hits their untrained eye. Such articles give one an eye-opening glimpse into the many “amateur hour” hacks pretending to be “writers” there really are.

What a BUNCH of kumquats. I would be embarrassed to attach my name on  such a lack of “efforts” in “journalism” I’ve seen. I can only refer to the skill in which these articles were written as piss-poor. Most of these reek of the kind of stench you find in a port-a-john in a late summer fair full of experts.

With all the articles I see on e-cigarettes in a given week from the “press” and “reliable sources”, MOST are written as if they were made up by the half-assed skill of an 11 year old child. Still, after all this time e-cigarettes have been on the market, most journalists show very little fact checking skills and write about them with little to no knowledge of e-cigarettes.

The problem is, those who don’t know better…

may believe them.

These are irresponsible and unacceptable misinformation machines.

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Media today can barely put a comprehensive report out on e-cigarettes without sensationalism. They boldly publish and promote false statements and outright lies without apologies, without evidence, without integrity. There is evidently no pride lost in slinging their feces…

They squealed about “formaldehyde”, which was false, but very few put forth any effort to type about Public Health England?

 


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I am an amateur blogger. I’m not a professional writer, yet I put most of you to shame (both sides of this blog and previous posts for PLENTY of content) with proper information for a smoker contemplating e-cigarettes and what they need to know.

Sadly, I write better than most of you, and I’m not a writer by profession. Most of you proudly show lack of intelligence with each new “story”. See – that’s the thing, most of you are just telling stories. You’re specializing in e-cigarettes. E-cigarette fiction writers. Almost ass-hat like.

Am I being condescending? Yes, yes I am. Patronizing? Fine, if that’s how you feel. Some of you refer to e-cigarettes as smoking, so….we’re not on the same page. Work on that.


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Some reporters are obviously too stupid or unable to put two sentences together coherently, they string a reader along by almost always starting off by describing an e-cigarette. Most of it is “expert copy & paste skills” from what I see. Regurgitating the same thing over and over and over again…. each article seems to have a theme.


 

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Requirements, evidently, for being a piss-poor journalist:

Mention gateways and children, but rarely mention “the children“.

Mention flavors, but rarely mention that “adults like flavors”.

Mention nicotine is addictive but never mention “nicotine“.

Mention approved methods, but don’t show “those methods aren’t as successful“.

Mention chemicals, but rarely mention “Chemicals“.

Mention health benefits, but never mention “health benefits

Mention we don’t know enough, but never mention that “Research is available here and here.”.

Mention laws, taxes & bans using the above descriptions but NEVER mention the truth on “Regulations, Restrictions, Taxes, Bans“.

Mention experts are on the fence about e-cigarettes, but have never talked to people on or  along “experts on this side of that fence“.

They almost NEVER mention reaching out to talk to ANY organization.


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Research, in journalism  – or at least this type of journalism isn’t acceptable to the public.

They rarely retract a story, when they do it’s barely mentioned in unrelated news or withOUT fanfare like the original story was bled to death.

Almost incessantly they will either allow comments until they don’t like them, will not allow certain comments, will delete them all or not allow them to begin with.


 

They LOVE exploding batteries. Here’s Christopher Russell on that:

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Update on a 2nd one from Christoper Russell:

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These wannabe’s take objectivity out, add in a five-gallon bucket of drivel, DON’T check facts, add in their own stupidity and use scary words like toxins – and makes a half-assed story go full ass.


 

One of the consequences of *#DailyPropaganda:

(*Thank you, Alan)

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According to Wikipedia-(a source evidently not concerned with standards in facts):

Journalism has developed a variety of ethics and standards. While objectivity and a lack of bias are of primary concern and importance, more liberal types of journalism, such as advocacy journalism and activism, intentionally adopt a non-objective viewpoint. This has become more prevalent with the advent of social media and blogs, as well as other platforms that are used to manipulate or sway social and political opinions and policies. These platforms often project extreme bias, as “sources” are not always held accountable or considered necessary in order to produce a written, televised or otherwise “published” end product.

 

Fergus Mason has his view of

Wikipedia, and why it matters.

 


 

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Please, keep in mind  -whether you are the largest major news corporation, or the smallest, I AM talking to YOU.

Do as you wish, “journalists”. Follow the pack, parasites. Keep going with  your “hard-hitting” fluff that your friends admire. You must be proud of that degree in typing.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

~Joseph Goebbels

There’s something controversial coming soon. It’s going to sting. This information you’re going to see in this trailer isn’t a secret. It may show that you are truly inept at research, that you are unwilling or unable to use your alleged education in journalism, or you’re just plain stupid. This could have been your story.

You, and all who have “Plausible Deniability” or who are “experts in tobacco control” might want to be attentive to this video from A Billion Lives.

It is a documentary about lies. Media, Government, Pharmaceuticals, Health and more. You know… all of you who should be paying attention instead of lying your full asses off…. or you may get dishonorable mention in this.

 


 

Here are just some of the unedited comments  “Real People ~ Real Answers” from the latest survey, unedited on question #34:

What is your opinion on reports you’ve seen in the media ?


DailyPropaganda

Tired of seeing ‘know nothing asshats’ pretending to be experts on vaping.
Tuesday, Oct 6th 5:24AM


 

A lot of media coverage on this is made by people who have not done their research.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM


 

It’s a mix in the UK these days
Wednesday, Sep 9th 12:29AM


 

Media used to relay the facts, today they only care about what sells. They have clearly taken a side before any interviews have started, some have affiliations with other companies or political views and stick to that no matter what truth is presented to them.

The honest truth should be shown on ALL media outlets, they should not be allowed to have a bias in any direction, the facts are what are important.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM


 

I tend to look for articles on ecigs and see many that talk about benefits and share them with others, but my sources are usually ecig positive, and I ignore the negative media reports from outside my sphere.
Saturday, Aug 8th 3:07PM


 

It seems hard to find legit studies and information that prove or disprove anything. More independent studies from sources that are not affiliated with smoking or vaping would be nice to see.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


 

The reports filled with blatant lies against vapor products were making me angry, so I stopped reading/watching them.
Those that are lying should be held responsible.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM


 

i find the media headlines negative aspects of vaping and e cigarettes way over the top. E cigarette and battery fires, exploding batteries etc are usually due to lack of knowledge and misuse.  Any battery powered device can a do explode, set on fire etc, but the media don’t report these instances the same way they do with e cigarettes.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM


 

The amount of biased/ill informed propaganda circulating both in media and on social network is, in my opinion, disgraceful!
Thursday, Jul 30th 2:03PM


 

To the last point “I’ve seen more experts than can possibly exist” it’s more like “experts”. People who let others think they know what they are talking about
Wednesday, Jul 29th 9:50AM


 

I have seen news which are made up to make e cig sounds bad, but truly it has nothing to do with e cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM


 

The media know fuck all and need to a few lessons in vaping!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


 

i have seen and heard way too many lies by people who are “experts” saying that its bad and targeting kids. i want them to support vaping rather than trying to get rid of the only actual effective way to quit smoking
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM


 

most of the reports are outrageous and test the vaping device at levels that no person would actually use it at, because at those levels you no longer have the actual taste of the e liquid you have nothing but a burnt taste
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM


 The never ending saga of a biased media and their sheeple.
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:55AM


 

its unballanced and there is too much scaremungering going on from very ignorant people
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


 

Big tobacco money talks
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM


 

It is very confusing trying to figure out what is information from real studies or reliable sources as opposed to what is made up on a non fact based opinion. That goes for both positive and negative information. I have stopped reading anything because I don’t know what to trust is from an accurate source
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:45AM


 

It seems only the sensationalist, biased reports get the big headlines!
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM


 

The media is attracted to negative stories.

From memory, there are 10 million smokers in the UK and 2.6M vapers. Of the vapers about 1M don’t dual use. I’m sure there’s plenty that don’t do either now. There needs to be a Panorama-type program to tell the good news truth about vaping and the money and power behind FDA and EU bans.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM


The propaganda is profoundly intellectually dishonest & scientifically incorrect.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 9:37AM


 

Most of what is out there is propoganda and when there is the side of vaping shown (pro vaping) it is far too often denounced. There are reports that show vaping honesty but they are few and far between because the govt does not want vaping to be seen as a good thing
Monday, Jul 13th 4:45PM


 

Junk science that is published them later pulled is stupid and irresponsable once it’s out there people believe it’s gotta be true when it isn’t
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM


 

There a a few unbiased reports out there, but most are fear-mongering.
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM


 

In the UK, I’ve seen both positive and negative coverage. But in the US it’s much worse, probably because of those vested interests. I do object to pharma companies putting signs in GPs offices saying ‘Don’t vape, stop smoking for good’ as it’s likely to put people off vaping. Vaping can save lives so why tell people not to do it? Insane.
Monday, Jul 13th 11:54AM


 

Heard some ridiculous stories. Battery safety is down to users, same as of you use a mobile phone, I have yet to meet anyone who has had anything more than a slight reaction to the pg. They simply used a Lewis worth more vg.

Monday, Jul 13th 3:30AM


 

Much of the media coverage (print and broadcast) reminds me of reports from the 80s and 90s suggesting that violent video games, television and rock music were responsible for teenagers committing serious crimes. Responsibility is being thrust on industry, rather than on parents, which is borderline atrocious

Sunday, Jul 12th 5:12PM


 

Very seldom do I see fair balanced reporting on the subject and when I see articles they are usually biased and slanted against Vaping and are chock full of misinformation and propaganda. The only fair and balanced information I have seen have been from the vaping industry itself.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM


 

This is true of a lot of the reports on the news, but I have seen lots of good studies done by professionals based on REAL SCIENCE and accurate reporting standards. I would never say vaping is 100% safe, but some of the reports on the news are just irresponsible and dissuade people from switching from stinkies, when they aren’t even true.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:15PM


 

The real issue is the indoctrination the media has both received and repeated for the last 50 years from anti-smoking lobbies. It is because of this that all consumer nicotine products are demonized, regardless of potential benefit.

Saturday, Jul 11th 6:43PM


 

There have been both sides of reports on vaping, depends on who is making the statement in the perticular article, I’m sure there will be debates for quite some time, I could care less, I smoked about 40 years , now I vape, I think it was a smart choice for me, I’m not concerned about health issues cause it can’t be worse than smoking, either way I’m apparently not going to live for ever , I’m pretty smart, smart enough to try vaping and get off cigarettes.

Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM


 

The impact of what is reported is much more detrimental to those who don’t know any better or TRUST the media.

 

That’s why I’m here.

If I had relied on media reports for information I would have been too concerned with the long term safety of e-cigarette use to try them and I would still be smoking today.

From New York, this individual’s complete response to this survey is here.



“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.



The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.


E-Cigs & Vaping. Fighting For Livelihood, Fighting For Lives. Here’s a phone number.

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Some are fighting for their livelihood; some are fighting for lives.

 David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email and is offering HELP.

Here’s his email and phone number.

He stated the phone line is open:

609-234-0220.

He’s also available at his email:

kgkjkl@yahoo.com…..

He’s not joking and neither am I…


Don’t know who Mr. Goerlitz is? I didn’t either till around December. I’ll get back to that.


W.H.O. , Governments. Politicians. Health Care. Health Organizations like the American Lung / Heart Associations. Anti-Tobacco. Tobacco. Pharmaceutical Companies. Doctors. Nurses. Pharmacies.

Big Corporations carrying those products that are to keep you well like drug stores and supermarkets. They’re doing the best they can fighting as well.


They have to keep money coming in, or they’ll lose a foothold. At what cost? I believe its at the very least the cost of lives. Those products had research/development. Lots of cash.


Those companies and conglomerates have investors. Investors want profit. It’s been said in this blog – Greg Conley of the AVA said vaping/ecigs are a disruptive technology.

I said in a previous blog somewhere It is again, disrupting alright. It’s disrupting cash flow from all of the above.


Those are people we vapers call antz. Those people are fighting for their livelihood. Grants. MSA funding. Tax dollars. Poorly portrayed reports in media. Misconstruing data. Pretending. Santa Claus. But its working. They’ve taken over. They’ve convinced the masses their way in ANY WAY & form that they can. We KNOW what they’re doing… what are WE doing???

For you who DO make noise, awesome. Someone heard you, I know I’ve heard quite a few. I’m SURE you know who are. We’ve probably crossed paths on Facebook or Twitter by now. You know where I stand…

For you who haven’t made any noise …. either stay quiet, become loud, or don’t WHINE and shrug your shoulders when regulation becomes control, taxation and possible bans………………..Yes I said bans. If you’re a reviewer, say something on your video about advocacy to your viewers. Maybe they don’t know. Put a clip of it up. Draw 30 seconds of attention to it. If you’re a vendor, you’ve got NO excuse not to be screaming….maybe not monetary, but you should be telling your customers and screaming at the government. By screaming I mean letters, phone calls, emails… I’ve SEEN a little of that on facebook & twitter….   MORE!


 With few exceptions, those supporting and involved directly with M.O.V.E, or those about to join ranks with M.O.V.E. are the source of truth. Dr. Konstantinos Farsalinos and his team (my apologies for not naming names with him at the moment) are standing up to the world, standing UP to an extremely large agenda with class and purpose (they) have continuously shown for those who can’t.” There are others here & abroad.You know who you are, and I thank you.



For the record, I smoked for 30 + years. I’ve vaped almost 2 years. I lost my father to lung cancer last fall. I lost my Grandmother to lung cancer as well. We have been a family of smokers till death do they part. Duh. I miss them dearly, and had they known vaping, they’d be screaming louder than I am.


I DON’T care if you smoke, dual use, just started out… or have been vaping exclusively for years. If you’re vaping and you’re on line… you’ve got future generations needing a choice in this matter.


Are you comfortable?

Are you happy? Are you satisfied? Are you able to do it yourself? Do you care?

Are you complacent?

Full Definition of COMPLACENT

1:  marked by self-satisfaction especially when accompanied by unawareness of actual dangers or deficiencies :  marked by complacency :  self-satisfied <a complacent smile>
2:  complaisant 1
3:  unconcerned        com·pla·cent·ly adverb

 SO.

Vapers / consumers have been dependent on CASAA and the VAPING MILITIA  to fight for us. I asked someone recently if they were too passive. Too complacent. Too laid back.  I think they are.

Is it funding? is it complacency? Is is me? This is a HUGE fight. Cloud blowing and trinkets are awesome…..I’m all for it,  but there’s a much bigger battle. I’m not saying they’re not doing anything, I’m saying more needs to be done.


WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT LOUD ENOUGH.

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We’re playing footsies. Tickle tickle.


This is a fight not easily fought or won for the deeming regulation to occur in the USA…. I don’t know about funding, money, lobbying, cash flow, donations, calls to action, none of that bullshit either, it’s not my expertise and I’ve never run an org…….. I thankfully have a job. I enjoy social media for fun, I love the funny cat video or hand check like the next guy…. we’re all human……but I did notice THIS:


 A photo at the FDA facebook page got 7,000+ comments with a #vapingsavedmylife hashtag. I joined in… on the survey page on facebook and twitter…..

THEN I started tweeting/hitting facebook with DEEMING REGULATION.

It is about loose tobacco – pipes… it’s not just vaping……….it’s about control……………..


The tweets by me the other night were modestly retweeted about the deeming regulation and shared on facebook by a few more…   now, updated daily, the FDA site where DEEMING REGULATION will invariably happen… regulation=control=tax=bans and very stringent guidelines……………………….. As of today:

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As of today on the comments of the DEEMING REGULATION at the FDA site updated Friday:

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 That just pisses me off.

Dimitris retweeted me. A few others did too…. big accounts…to get some real action on the FDA site…..not even a “like”from some…..imagine that. BIG players in the field of vaping.

What the HELL is wrong with you people????

   There are 13,000+ on CASAA’s facebook page. There are over 8,000 on the Vaping Militia facebook page.

No, not all would see a tweet or post on that page, not all that are on facebook are members in the USA, so lets say 10 percent – that’s 2100 comments……………………………… but you can BUMP a video of a cat???

Can you pin a tweet? Can you understand you’re being played? Do you not know what this is about?

It’s about health. It’s about choice.

Finally it’s about control, and continued control of cash.

Your cash. Your children’s cash & health.

It’s about us fighting for their lives.

If you dismiss everything I’ve said about the USA above, keep going…

It’s been banned in other countries. BANNED in other countries.

That pisses me off.

I don’t know that I do everything “right”.

It’s easy to armchair the orgs from where I am. We have to keep doing SOMETHING.

now it’s up to merchants & individuals to be LOUD AS HELL as WELL….

SFATA & AVA are on that side, if you didn’t know and you’re a vendor, shame on you.



Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

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email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


David Goerlitz. You might recognize him, you might not. I don’t know Mr. Goerlitz myself, but was within an email only conversation with him today, and remember emailing him some time ago on FB about something. That said, I’m going to just post some of his comments – and remember – his phone line is open and if it’s busy, I’m sure he’s got voicemail. I will give his number again, and again…. at the bottom along with his blog.

“Here is where you should pay attention”


He said in part on an email:

I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll
I’ll let you read his comments.
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Again in August:

“can’t return a phone call”

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“609 234-0220……email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……I guess I need to tweet, twit, hash tag, or twitter to be taken seriously. I’m old school Kevin and yes you can use whatever I have for whatever you want. I don’t do selfie’s or brag about my past. But it DOES play a roll……………………”




David is, after all, the

http://formerwinstonman.com/ 

and understands what we’re up against. Read his blog. I don’t know if anyone will get this far in it, but if you don’t care, as you were. If you do care, do something, if I hurt your feelings, aww. If I pissed you off, GOOD. If I motivated you as an individual or a company… vendors I’m talking to YOU…..reviewers too…. and you’re going to be active at your B&M, good. Be aware…. it’s coming. David’s BEEN saying so. To the CASAA & Vaping Militia, if you know the knowledge he has, above and beyond what we do, and it is there to use, I won’t ask why you haven’t called David yet, I now will only ask “when will you”, and what else can I do? I’ll always be gladly willing to learn & take suggestions.


David’s number again if you missed it is

……

email: kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Roly Gate had this on E-Cigarette Politics and it is spot ON. Campaign For Truth In Public Health ***********


Well, David Goerlitz would like a phone call or an email to HELP. Here’s his email and phone number.

……

email kgkjkl@yahoo.com……


Keep On #Vaping On. Kevin

Merchant Of Doubt. Creator of Doom. Professor of Tobacco Control, Stanton Glantz.

glantzzzzzzzzzzzz With so many controversies over e-cigarettes & vaping, now approaching is the pending possibility of regulating e-cigarettes and other forms of tobacco by the F.D.A, along with the their accepting comments from the public for it’s “deeming legislation”, and there are suddenly many “experts”. Enter Stanton Glantz..


Glantz has a background in tobacco control. You said in 1990 addiction helps people like you pay mortgages…. and in 1992, you stated “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… wow…. Go ahead, click on it. tobacco2


Some experts are popping up like dandelions in your fresh spring lawn in the arenas of public health, TV doctors, reporters, politicians, even people with no degrees at all… and people in tobacco control against e-cigarettes. Stan has been around awhile. Glantz has a background in tobacco control. It would seem obvious that any professor in tobacco control would see the benefits in using an e-cigarette as a viable way to reduce harm that, if the person chose to get off tobacco for good, a professor would be in favor of just that. That way, an alleged leader in tobacco “control” would have in essence, controlled said use of tobacco. Well, that’s not really the way it is at least out in sunny California.


Stanton Glantz, with his title of PhD and “Professor of Medicine” “Professor of Tobacco Control” (Is that a real title?) is more about “control”. A Professor of doubt, a creator of doom. Seemingly, Glantz is “all powerful and all knowing”, kind of like the wizard of odd. As a “Merchant of Doom” in a smoke filled tobacco world, he’s an expert at pretending there is no research with e-cigarettes, that there’s no results. You’d think with a PhD. , and millions of dollars in funding at his fingertips at the University of California, San Francisco, he’d have defeated tobacco by now, wouldn’t you? You’d think with all that funding from trusting people, there would be nothing but fact and truth coming out of someone’s mouth holding such a prestigious position. You’d think. Stan just posted a blog. Stan likes control. Remember how his attitude was before: “if the answer is yes, then we do it, and if the answer is I don’t know, then we don’t bother. That’s the criteria……. for research… so how different has that become years later???


No bias here………….

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I will give my rebuttle in italics and bold on his blog post below on the statements from Stan’s recent blog post he “considers” with his opinion. Remember, he’s a researcher, but science, fact & opinion seem to confuse him in an uncanny way. He seem to glide seamlessly and effortlessly with his words, craftily designed like he might actually be an English teacher, but I think not. His title & a link to it if you desire to read it on it’s own. Love the “(almost)” in his title… he needs to brush it up, like I will his post.


A sensible plan for effective FDA regulation of e-cigarette marketing (almost) now http://tobacco.ucsf.edu/sensible-plan-effective-fda-regulation-e-cigarette-marketing-almost-now Submitted by sglantz on Tue, 2015-03-17 12:58 Eric Lindblom, who headed the Office of Policy in the FDA Center for Tobacco Products and is now on detail at the Georgetown University School of Law, just published “Effectively Regulating E-Cigarettes and Their Advertising— and the First Amendment” in Food and Drug Law Journal. This paper is the an amazingly creative and incisive analysis of how to get out-of-control e-cigarette marketing under control as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes.


You make an astonishing and asinine assumption of the “e-cigarette marketing being “out of control” and I find it a creative and incisive analysis… good for you Stan…. you have tried to come up with one of your own recently? You must watch a LOT of television and see a load of print ads… The part where you say “as soon as the FDA achieves authority to regulate e-cigarettes”…. that may happen, I’m not sure, but you seem to know they will. That’s pretty arrogant. Let’s continue, shall we?


Lindbloom notes that there are two possible justifications for allowing e-cigarettes on the market:


I, along with millions, only need one justification, getting myself off cigarettes. It worked flawlessly.


1. The might help current smokers quit cigarettes. 2. The might be an effective harm reduction strategy for current smokers.


“might, according to Lindbloom, is a questionable statement. He obviously listens to you. They DO help current smokers quit. “might be effective harm reduction”…. isn’t that what ANY tobacco control professor wants? People OFF tobacco?


He notes that there are several ways in which e-cigarettes could result in increased harm:


((“could” and “increased harm”)). Really? No science to back yourself up, Stan? No studies to point to or link? Ironically, being a researcher, you have no research on your part…. man that was SO disappointing you didn’t even try. Well… you’re wrong about ‘increased harm”, Stan- there are PLENTY of studies by real researchers, doctors, scientists even, stating there is significantly LESS harm, considering it’s not combustible tobacco, but you’re the expert? Researchers (what you claim to be?) Scientists & Doctors have done plenty of research and you simply insult them – your colleagues in the field – by saying there isn’t any: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm))) You also tried to create a false sense of harm in your #curbit campaign. Denying the above research and keeping people on cigarettes. Is that your goal, Stan? Continued funding and job security???


Your proud moment in the #curbit campaign on Twitter, claiming toxic vapor, that e-cigs are cigarettes, and frankly misleading anyone into thinking they would be educated is ironic: S4


1. Kids who would not otherwise have smoked addicts start using e-cigarettes. 2. Former smokers take up e-cigarettes. 3. Former smokers relapse to smoking cigarettes again.


Face it Stan…. I’m calling you out on the “kids” thing. Children is a ploy Stan. It’s a catch all “doom” statement because you have nothing else. If all your work on tobacco control all these years was working like you profess it, then there would be no children SMOKING.  See Gate? No Way! here: Gate? No Way! (Thank you Mr. Zillitron). Former smokers “taking up” e-cigarettes (Adults with choices) would keep them from and OFF combustible tobacco. (Your life’s work and goal?) Former smokers relapse on other forms of smoking cessation-quite a BIT more. Either way, they’re off tobacco… still not getting it are you, and again, you’re a researcher?


While the first two points about the potential benefits of e-cigarettes are controversial,


Not to people wanting a choice to be off of combustible tobacco in a design that works effectively, it’s not “controversial”… just to you, Stan. the last three are not. Indeed, the major challenge to e-cigarette enthusiasts is how to craft a policy/regulatory environment in which the possible benefits of e-cigarettes can occur without the collateral damage of promoting increased nicotine addiction in never or former smokers.


Your assumption with the word “possible” astounds me. Are you for it or against it? “Collateral damage”? Nicotine is something else you need to research, Stan. I thought you were a RESEARCHER! Here, buddy, here’s just one link to nicotine, I don’t want to burden you with too much information at once but would like to point out that this link is from a TOBACCO HARM REDUCTION SITE in case your assistants can’t be with you to help you see it: Nicotine FAQ’s http://tobaccoharmreduction.org/faq/nicotine.htm Please note that some people not only reduce their nicotine by choice, some go as far as to use NO nicotine! I know – it’s such a surprise! Their thought is that nicotine itself is dangerous in this form comes from people like you. I can’t imagine you need to know this, yet I need to be sure we’re clear on this: The carcinogens and chemicals in tobacco from combustion of said chemicals are what is dangerous in cigarette smoking, not the nicotine.


Lindbloom presents a sensible and practical solution: Limit e-cigarette advertising and promotion to highly targeted direct-to-consumer contact materials that only go to confirmed current smokers.


Ummmm what??? Are you nuts? You want to support a “sensible and practical” solution? Are you turning the tide on your stance, Gl  ANTZ?


This is something that companies can do given their databases of current smokers.


Well, Stan, are you contributing your cash to do this? Try another #curbit campaign, that did wonders. This is something you could have done in promoting e-cigarettes rather than pretending there’s no research.


This highly focused advertising would get e-cigarette advertisements out of mass media (including the internet) and greatly reduce exposure to nonsmokers.


Are you a moonlight advertising executive and you’ve been holding out on me?


Lindbloom carefully assesses the First Amendment issues and shows how the FDA could do this discretionary enforcement authority without any new rulemaking.


I can only picture you rubbing your hands together with glee over discretionary enforcement. Control has just gone to your head now, hasn’t it…


This approach would not only allow action much faster – years faster – than using rule making, but it would also be easier to defend in court.


I think, with this statement the way it is, its just more hand rubbing…


If it turns out that e-cigarettes do not help smokers quit, keep people smoking (which I think is their actual effect)


Oh look folks, more opinion!!! I THINK it is their actual effect. ((Ugh! I think you’re an idiot!)) They DO help people quit:


or that they turn out to be a lot more dangerous than the optimists think


TURN OUT to be???? You really want people to take you seriously??? See research again Stan: E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


(i.e. if assumptions 1 and/or 2 turn out to be wrong) , the FDA can adjust its rules. But the damage will only be done to current smokers and the significant collateral damage listed in items 3, 4, and 5 will have been avoided.


Are you telling the FDA they can “adjust its rules”??? You have some control issues, Stan. Have you seen a psychologist for that? Damage… well, again, refer to that research… I keep having to tell you it’s there. This is getting old. E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)))


Everyone at the FDA needs to study this paper with an open mind and see that the deeming rule which is now being finalized does not inadvertently make it harder to implement this plan.


“An Open Mind.” Simon Chapman hasn’t blocked me, I actually like some of his information. Engage properly with people in the twitter arena instead of insisting on your way or the highway, Stan. You might learn something. See if you can have an open mind sometime. You don’t do any research so you might as well ponder the wonders of learning.

S


And, while the technical details of Lindbloom’s plan are written for the US, the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries. Indeed, they may be easier to implement in countries that do not deify commercial speech the way the US Supreme Court does.


“the ideas can be easily implemented in other countries”? They may be easier??? Now you want to control the world??? You REALLY need to see a professional. Consult your Psych. Department over there at the University Of California.


Probably even more important, public health advocates need to read this paper and start pressing the FDA, their keepers in the Obama Administration, and pro-health members of Congress to make sure that this plan gets implemented.


“Probably” even more important. Is it important? You sound tired here. You must hydrate once in a while between naps. It should read something like “I implore” or “must”. Those words are strong, show you mean business and would’ve been better to get people to “start pressing the FDA” to get this implemented. What exactly IS more important? Again, get off your high horse. You are a researcher. You would think the most important goal in a TOBACCO CONTROL researcher would be to get people OFF TOBACCO. Off of cigarettes. With all the research showing it’s MUCH less harmful than cigarettes I’d think you could see that by now.





While I admit your resume’ is impressive. Your integrity is quite questionable. Your ability to try to be cute and not have any idea that research isn’t being done is stunning, but it’s getting old, but you keep at it. Pompous, self-centered and beyond your time, there are people who are helping the world. Real Researchers. Real Doctors. Real Scientists. You insult your community and dismiss, sidestep and misconstrue the very idea that e-cigarettes are safe.



Well, glANTZ, they are safe. E-cigarettes are not only safe in comparison to smoking cigarettes that they’re saving lives. They’re much safer than you trying to keep people from it. Your goal in tobacco harm reduction is to get people off of tobacco. I would presume you would be the first to know that. Do some real research, make a phone call, stop making false claims. You are endangering people and giving them the illusion that an e-cigarette is worse in your #curbit campaign. That deters people and keeps them smoking when they believe the lies you’ve spread. That is irresponsible, that is costing lives. You know, you might make a better politician than researcher. Do some research, check that out…


I’m no one important. I did do a Vaping Truth Survey – Here’s the final analysis, that by default, discredits you with no grants, staff or offices in the very things you elude to…….


Turns out I and THOUSANDS of vapers have done more research than you via E-Cigarette Research (http://www.ecigalternative.com/ecigarette-studies-research.htm)


Dear Stanton Glantz: If millions of e-cigarette users are wrong around the world by benefiting with e-cigarettes, and ONE researcher is right…… isn’t that something you should take up with your math department being statistically unsound? A concerned and much healthier e-cigarette user. As always, Keep On #Vaping On.

Kevin

NZ, thank you again.