Category Archives: Ecigarettes

Raising FUNDS for E-Cigarette Research

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Dr. Farsalinos is well aware of this fundraiser. I’ll make this as brief as I can.

Think back to when you first looked for research on e-cigarettes. You were (and still are) finding glorified journalism and public health websites choosing to tell a fabricated story.

(I’ve covered that here)

At times, you’d find fiction.


In the world of e-cigarette research, one name stands out from the crowd. Dr. Farsalinos.

Dr. Farsalinos is a Cardiologist.


I We are raising money HERE  for Dr. Farsalinos and his team of researchers.

(Nicotine Addiction: An Open 30-Day Public Health Challenge)


Why did I choose his team?

Because I trust him and his team to tell me the truth about what they discover, regardless of what they find. They do this to relay proper and unbias information to the consumer, good or bad. Period.

He is providing us with information.

“Unbiased, reliable – full access” information.

We can’t expect him and his team to do his research for free.

I access and refer to his work constantly. SO do you.


He speaks around the 48-minute mark here:

Global Forum On Nicotine


So, to clarify, this GoFundMe fundraiser is about

  • Raising funds for Dr. Farsalinos and his team at ecigarette-research.org
  • Requesting Public Health, Anti-Tobacco, Tobacco Control and other professionals to provide documentation and prove “addiction to nicotine” with the criteria provided.
  • Proving or disproving the “addiction to nicotine” claim without tobacco or MAOI’s.

Why did I choose nicotine addiction as the subject?

Because powerful people in powerful positions have asserted themselves for decades by saying nicotine is addictive, and it raises awareness.

I painstakingly went through the criteria and sought advice from many I trust before submitting this challenge (and will blog about it about it once it’s over).


What happens to your donation?

If nicotine addiction is proven with the criteria:

Only 5% of the funds collected (minus fees) go to my most detested organization

👉  The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids.

The rest of the funds collected 95%  (minus fees) 


If it unproven, unchallenged (expected), ignored or does not meet the criteria,

100% of the funds (minus fees) 👉


Here is why I say nicotine is not addictive:

Along with things like this, this and this  – there’s this:

If the data contradict the theory, throw out the data


Here is what Joe Gitchell said when I asked what he thought about the challenge:


If you want to have lives depending on “expert” opinions and hypothesis with the “we’re in control” offices of Glantz, Chapman, McKee, Malone and Capewell, be my guest.

We need further unbias, objective research without conflict of interest.


Donate, spread this around. Change the world.

I encourage you to tag and post it everywhere you know experts will see it. Make them think. Put them to the test. Ask them questions.

Give them the chance to answer the challenge on my blog.

The goal for this campaign is set at $25,000.00.

Sharing is caring. Go here and thank you in advance.


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Research


Politics

E-Cigarette Politics 


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A Billion Lives

This isn’t over:


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Keep ON #Vaping On.

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Vaping In The News 3-04-17

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Vaping In The News – February 26th-March 4th, 2017

CASAA, Blog Fog, American Vaping Association, Regulatory Pie, Simon Chapman, Dick Durbin, Public Policy, Indiana, Bill Godshall



Advocacy

I first met Jennifer Berger-Coleman online when I saw her post this:

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I asked her permission to use that graphic and did so here. (Thank you again, Jennifer!)

I was delighted to see this:

CASAA is pleased to announce some welcome additions to our leadership team.

Jennifer Berger-Coleman was elected to CASAA’s Board of Directors. While new to the Board, Jennifer is certainly not new to advocacy. In addition to working on tobacco harm reduction advocacy in California, Jennifer has a long history of advocacy involving civil rights and health care issues. Her skills as an outreach coordinator will be employed to help CASAA reach populations and communities where smoking rates remain disproportionately high.

Congratulations, Jennifer!

New additions to CASAA’s Leadership Team!



Please Stand By

It seems the fog still hangs over the Tobacco Control BMJ and its authors of “Blog Fog” after more than ten days.

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In their feeble attempt to assert themselves of promoting open and rapid debate to the little people (in the name of advancing science, of course), technical difficulties, password issues and a comedy of errors have one author now “mortified due to different but linked systems. Uh huh.

Christopher Snowden gives some reassurance for her mortification.



Tweet Of The Week

The tweet of the week goes to Agent Ania in reference to the above “Blog Fog”.



Proactive

Here’s an awesome and dignified example of the vaping community reacting proactively.

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This comes from Alycia Singleton via Gregory Conley of the American Vaping Association.

“The son of a vape shop owner (edit: actually a manager) was apparently told to write an assignment listing five reasons why vaping should be banned.

Instead, he submitted 240 pages of scientific information and stories from adults who found them helpful in quitting.

He got a F and his mom was told to take it up with the school board.”

AVA is going to give this young man a $1,000 college scholarship.



Regulatory Pie

The FDA is holding a $1,000,000 pie eating contest.

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“to conduct an in-depth evaluation of available evidence of health effects from e-cigarettes and recommendations for future federally funded research.”

Study on the Health Effects of Electronic Nicotine Delivery Systems and Priority Research


To fund more research. What?

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Wait a minute, regulations preceded the ~knowledge~ of health effects? Huh.


For reference, 20 Million dollars of pie was consumed in 2013 to “help regulate tobacco products” that surely included the deeming regulations.

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UCSF Awarded $20M Federal Grant on Tobacco Regulatory Sciences New Research Will Help Regulate Tobacco Products to Protect Public Health


Influence

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Speaking of idiots, Simon Chapman thinks, and that should be regulated.

(Bold is my emphasis)

“We expect those who know most about health problems to have views about what should be done to solve them and the courage to put these forward, even if they imply criticism of governments or powerful interest groups.”


“Trump’s recent gagging of all government environmental agency staff is surely the start of a process that will spread to government funded universities in the USA.”

Simon Chapman thinks researchers have a “duty” to try and influence policy.


In other news …..

Senator Durbin is still babbling incessantly, insisting “we need strong regulations of e-cigarettes.”

Evidently he didn’t get the memo on National Tobacco Day.

He was last seen sticking his paws in the 👉 candy desk at the senate.


Dr. Brad Rodu, Matthew Glans, and Lindsey Stroud

give their take on

Policy, Myths and Facts, History of the Failed Anti-Smoking Campaign, Quit or Die as the Only Strategy, The Case for Tobacco Harm Reduction and more:

That and more including the PDF is here:

Vaping, E-Cigarettes, and Public Policy Toward Alternatives to Smoking

Related:

Clive Bates covered policy in January:👇

Reshaping American tobacco policy: eight proposals for the Trump administration



Indiana

“In a nearly unanimous vote yesterday, the Indiana Senate overwhelming approved legislation that will finally attempt to reform the state’s controversial vaping laws.  Passing with a 49-1 margin, the bill now heads to the House, although it is unclear if Senate Bill 1 will be altered in any way to gain a House majority vote.”

Indiana Senate votes 49-1 to reform controversial vaping laws


Stay Informed

The Bill Godshall Update via ecigarette-politics:

Always an informative list:

Bill Godshall Update 2017-02-24



Shameless Self-Promotion

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Two from me this week, in case you missed them:

Imagine a business with no worries about profit or loss – and the money keeps coming in. As a bonus, you can carry this on for more than 50 years and brag about it.

Helping Smokers Quit


Place your trust in public health officials. They are the clergy, you are the congregation.

Divine Intervention: A Deal With The Devil

 

I’m also on Vaping Media:

Another suggestion is doing simple tongue exercises to alleviate Vaper’s Tongue.

Vaper’s Tongue! What is that?




 

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Research:

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More to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

 

 

Vaping In The News 2-25-17

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Vaping In The News – February 19th-25th, 2017

This weeks collection of Vaping In The News includes Tobacco Control BMJ, Censorship, Steve Forbes, Refreshing Journalism, CASAA / HR1136, Bill Godshall, Cole-Bishop HR1136 Canada and Vlad The Vaper.

I won’t bore you with my usual (insert witty and thought-provoking editorial comment here) views on it all, so let us get straight to Vaping In The News:


Impugning

This week, much to my amusement, Tobacco Control BMJ finds itself in the hot seat when (it) wanted to assert take control. “They” decided to take some to task with this sad example of a scream test in their own echo chamber.

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Blog fog? Using rapid response to advance science and promote debate

Like watching a train wreck, one co-author tweeted taunted this:

Then, as if “rapid” was another code word for “no”…it seems 2 days later, technical difficulties find their way to bad timing.

Still waiting……and duly noted:
“We intend to post all eLetters approved by the Editor within 7-14 days, which must contribute substantially to the topic however it is at our absolute discretion whether we publish and timeframes cannot be guaranteed.”
At the time of this blog, 2/25/17:
My take with others linked within:

Say what?

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I was intrigued with an article written by Gary Wood here (with audio)

Government Silences Vape Shop Owners in the US

I wasn’t surprised with the quality of the article, having seen this a few days before:

Why Vaping is Safer in the UK than in the US

Keep that up, Mr. Wood, and thank you.


Forbes

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Steve Forbes, (Yes, him) who has written before about the issues at hand, has another article:

“…a perverse mind-set reigns among health regulators and fanatical antismoking crusaders…”

President Trump’s Deregulators Should Tell The FDA’s Anti-Vaping Jihadists to Butt Out


Refreshing

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A Writer at FEE, the Foundation for Economic Education, Brittany Hunter has written

This Could Be the Last Stand for Vaping. It is refreshing to see a journalist taking time to see the whole picture.

I’ve seen Brittany before on Twitter here with

Teenagers Say No to Drugs and Tobacco, Yes to Vaping


You should never miss

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The Bill Godshall Update via ecigarette-politics:

A hefty list:

Bill Godshall Update 2017-02-10


#HR1136:

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This from CASAA

“…for those who are chomping at the bit to get started, this week is an excellent time to engage in face-to-face engagement with lawmakers.”

HR 1136 – Modernizing the predicate date for vapor products is a vital first step



Canada

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Brent Stafford, of Regulator Watch has yet another investigative report about Canada and regulations they’re facing.

Awkward Allies | Big Tobacco talks Vaping, IQOS & Federal Regs


Public Service Announcement:

Get louder.

They’re trying to make you squeal.


Latest from me:

Vaping Regulations Should Be Based On Evidence: Cole-Bishop Amendment

Top 10 “things” that piss me off about #ecigs.


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Vaping In the News

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Depending on where you look and who’s got the narrative on e-cigarettes –  There is good, bad, and ugly. Every DAY, vaping is in the news. Every day, something is breaking.

In the spirit of and inspiration from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk, this is a quick selection of what I’ve seen (good, bad and ugly) this past week with the obligatory op-ed above each one designed to inform, enlighten and enrage.


The Outstanding News

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If you don’t know about Cole-Bishop, you need to hydrate, educate yourself –  and waste no time:

“There is a legitimate role for tobacco regulations, but vaping is not a tobacco product.”

“Regulations should be based on evidence and the FDA doesn’t have the evidence to say that vaping is a harmful product.”

“There is a legitimate role the FDA plays for tobacco regulations, but e-cigarettes are not a tobacco product.”

Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK) Discusses the Cole-Bishop Amendment with Nicopure Labs



The Good

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It’s an amazing thing when people take matters into their own hands when decisions they make have a direct impact on their lives. There is a continuous stream of light from consumers who have switched from smoking combustible tobacco and their journey with e-cigarettes. We, after all, are the experts.

Shining that light is a proactive effort to educate the public and smokers who may be thinking of switching to e-cigarettes.

A series of videos released by the National Centre for Smoking Cessation and Training (NCSCT) and New Nicotine Alliance (NNA) was released with personal stories from those who have made The Switch.

More on this from Diane Caruana at Vaping Post:

Short movies about vaping by the NNA and NCSCT


Next, another video released by CASAA with a no-nonsense tone explaining the obvious difference between combustible tobacco and e-cigarettes.

How they work, less harm, nicotine and more.



The Bad

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Click-Bait Trend

Click-bait is the staple of the media, and this a sparking example of controlling the flow of information by deleting comments.

You can read the sparkly tweet and have enough to decipher the stupidity, and to read the article would take you less than one minute. I’ve linked with a “do not link” url here so they get no traffic ranking from this blog. I’d venture to say if it weren’t for vapers, there wouldn’t be any traffic to some of these idiots.


Would you like fries with that?

The Mayo Clinic has released positive views about e-cigarettes here.

Now, they’ve caught the attention of who is, without question, impeccable. He maintains his class and style by adding condiments to an “unethical and misleading risk” sandwich to the Mayo Clinic.

I hope he sent them napkins.

Hold the Mayo



Idiot Of The Week

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Because who doesn’t know how to describe “toxic exposure” better than Michael Cawley, PharmD, RRT, CPFT, FCCM:.

“Although controversy continues about the limited carcinogenic exposure of e-cigarettes compared to traditional tobacco products, a more alarming fact is the toxic exposure of liquid nicotine used by e-cigarettes.”

Sounds like it’s more alarming to vape than smoke, but if you’re not educated enough with all those letters after your name to find substantially reduced levels of measured carcinogens and toxins, DO some research. Even the American Association for Cancer Research knows better.

We already know that e-cigarettes are “not nearly” as alarming, but the way you put it,

Cawley goes on to insist at the end:

“In addition, potential drug interactions should also be discussed with patients since many do not consider liquid nicotine interacting with any prescribed medications. As pharmacists, we need to routinely include questions about the use of e-cigarettes in all our patients with a smoking history.”

I can’t stand linking it, but it is here:  Know the Toxins in E-Cigarettes



The Ugly

There was a “discussion paper” released in 2016 in Australia called:

Options to minimize the risks associated with the marketing and use of electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS) in Australia.”

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Clive Bates covered it here.

One of the authors of that paper is none other than Simon Chapman. Now, he’s having a conversation on his article, “Twelve myths about e-cigarettes” The now retired professor wrote an article stuffed with his quit or die mantra, only this time there are responses including Cardiologist Konstantinos E Farsalinos.

Read the article (if you must), but GO to the bottom and hit “Show All Comments”. Turns out “the ugly”, with the help of Dr. Farsalinos and others within may just educate those in need the most: “experts“.

Twelve myths about e-cigarettes that failed to impress the TGA



The latest from me:

Exclusively on Vaping Media:

Rather than initiate dialogue or pursue evidence to present to consumers, U.S. officials are not mentioning it.

Why Are U.S. Health Officials Ignoring U.K. Colleagues about E-Cigs?

I wrote the President:

Dear President Trump:

I urge you to immediately order the Food and Drug Administration to cease and desist any and all activity involving “regulation” of e-cigarettes by classifying them “tobacco”.

Dear President Trump: Stop the F.D.A

Finally:

With more than 560 physicians surveyed, over 70% “indicated that e-cigs can help patients reduce or eliminate smoking” and “almost half believe they can reduce risk” according to a new survey by Andrew Nickels, M.D.

Doctors tell smokers: Switch to e-cigs 



E-cigarette NEWS Monday thru Friday is here

from my friends across the pond at Vapers.org.uk.



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Toxic Media. E-Cigarettes And Journalism.

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Journalists. They spit out low quality fairy tales as fast as an e-cigarette study hits their untrained eye. Such articles give one an eye-opening glimpse into the many “amateur hour” hacks pretending to be “writers” there really are.

What a BUNCH of kumquats. I would be embarrassed to attach my name on  such a lack of “efforts” in “journalism” I’ve seen. I can only refer to the skill in which these articles were written as piss-poor. Most of these reek of the kind of stench you find in a port-a-john in a late summer fair full of experts.

With all the articles I see on e-cigarettes in a given week from the “press” and “reliable sources”, MOST are written as if they were made up by the half-assed skill of an 11 year old child. Still, after all this time e-cigarettes have been on the market, most journalists show very little fact checking skills and write about them with little to no knowledge of e-cigarettes.

The problem is, those who don’t know better…

may believe them.

These are irresponsible and unacceptable misinformation machines.

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Media today can barely put a comprehensive report out on e-cigarettes without sensationalism. They boldly publish and promote false statements and outright lies without apologies, without evidence, without integrity. There is evidently no pride lost in slinging their feces…

They squealed about “formaldehyde”, which was false, but very few put forth any effort to type about Public Health England?

 


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I am an amateur blogger. I’m not a professional writer, yet I put most of you to shame (both sides of this blog and previous posts for PLENTY of content) with proper information for a smoker contemplating e-cigarettes and what they need to know.

Sadly, I write better than most of you, and I’m not a writer by profession. Most of you proudly show lack of intelligence with each new “story”. See – that’s the thing, most of you are just telling stories. You’re specializing in e-cigarettes. E-cigarette fiction writers. Almost ass-hat like.

Am I being condescending? Yes, yes I am. Patronizing? Fine, if that’s how you feel. Some of you refer to e-cigarettes as smoking, so….we’re not on the same page. Work on that.


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Some reporters are obviously too stupid or unable to put two sentences together coherently, they string a reader along by almost always starting off by describing an e-cigarette. Most of it is “expert copy & paste skills” from what I see. Regurgitating the same thing over and over and over again…. each article seems to have a theme.


 

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Requirements, evidently, for being a piss-poor journalist:

Mention gateways and children, but rarely mention “the children“.

Mention flavors, but rarely mention that “adults like flavors”.

Mention nicotine is addictive but never mention “nicotine“.

Mention approved methods, but don’t show “those methods aren’t as successful“.

Mention chemicals, but rarely mention “Chemicals“.

Mention health benefits, but never mention “health benefits

Mention we don’t know enough, but never mention that “Research is available here and here.”.

Mention laws, taxes & bans using the above descriptions but NEVER mention the truth on “Regulations, Restrictions, Taxes, Bans“.

Mention experts are on the fence about e-cigarettes, but have never talked to people on or  along “experts on this side of that fence“.

They almost NEVER mention reaching out to talk to ANY organization.


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Research, in journalism  – or at least this type of journalism isn’t acceptable to the public.

They rarely retract a story, when they do it’s barely mentioned in unrelated news or withOUT fanfare like the original story was bled to death.

Almost incessantly they will either allow comments until they don’t like them, will not allow certain comments, will delete them all or not allow them to begin with.


 

They LOVE exploding batteries. Here’s Christopher Russell on that:

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Update on a 2nd one from Christoper Russell:

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These wannabe’s take objectivity out, add in a five-gallon bucket of drivel, DON’T check facts, add in their own stupidity and use scary words like toxins – and makes a half-assed story go full ass.


 

One of the consequences of *#DailyPropaganda:

(*Thank you, Alan)

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According to Wikipedia-(a source evidently not concerned with standards in facts):

Journalism has developed a variety of ethics and standards. While objectivity and a lack of bias are of primary concern and importance, more liberal types of journalism, such as advocacy journalism and activism, intentionally adopt a non-objective viewpoint. This has become more prevalent with the advent of social media and blogs, as well as other platforms that are used to manipulate or sway social and political opinions and policies. These platforms often project extreme bias, as “sources” are not always held accountable or considered necessary in order to produce a written, televised or otherwise “published” end product.

 

Fergus Mason has his view of

Wikipedia, and why it matters.

 


 

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Please, keep in mind  -whether you are the largest major news corporation, or the smallest, I AM talking to YOU.

Do as you wish, “journalists”. Follow the pack, parasites. Keep going with  your “hard-hitting” fluff that your friends admire. You must be proud of that degree in typing.


“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.”

~Joseph Goebbels

There’s something controversial coming soon. It’s going to sting. This information you’re going to see in this trailer isn’t a secret. It may show that you are truly inept at research, that you are unwilling or unable to use your alleged education in journalism, or you’re just plain stupid. This could have been your story.

You, and all who have “Plausible Deniability” or who are “experts in tobacco control” might want to be attentive to this video from A Billion Lives.

It is a documentary about lies. Media, Government, Pharmaceuticals, Health and more. You know… all of you who should be paying attention instead of lying your full asses off…. or you may get dishonorable mention in this.

 


 

Here are just some of the unedited comments  “Real People ~ Real Answers” from the latest survey, unedited on question #34:

What is your opinion on reports you’ve seen in the media ?


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Tired of seeing ‘know nothing asshats’ pretending to be experts on vaping.
Tuesday, Oct 6th 5:24AM


 

A lot of media coverage on this is made by people who have not done their research.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM


 

It’s a mix in the UK these days
Wednesday, Sep 9th 12:29AM


 

Media used to relay the facts, today they only care about what sells. They have clearly taken a side before any interviews have started, some have affiliations with other companies or political views and stick to that no matter what truth is presented to them.

The honest truth should be shown on ALL media outlets, they should not be allowed to have a bias in any direction, the facts are what are important.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM


 

I tend to look for articles on ecigs and see many that talk about benefits and share them with others, but my sources are usually ecig positive, and I ignore the negative media reports from outside my sphere.
Saturday, Aug 8th 3:07PM


 

It seems hard to find legit studies and information that prove or disprove anything. More independent studies from sources that are not affiliated with smoking or vaping would be nice to see.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


 

The reports filled with blatant lies against vapor products were making me angry, so I stopped reading/watching them.
Those that are lying should be held responsible.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM


 

i find the media headlines negative aspects of vaping and e cigarettes way over the top. E cigarette and battery fires, exploding batteries etc are usually due to lack of knowledge and misuse.  Any battery powered device can a do explode, set on fire etc, but the media don’t report these instances the same way they do with e cigarettes.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM


 

The amount of biased/ill informed propaganda circulating both in media and on social network is, in my opinion, disgraceful!
Thursday, Jul 30th 2:03PM


 

To the last point “I’ve seen more experts than can possibly exist” it’s more like “experts”. People who let others think they know what they are talking about
Wednesday, Jul 29th 9:50AM


 

I have seen news which are made up to make e cig sounds bad, but truly it has nothing to do with e cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM


 

The media know fuck all and need to a few lessons in vaping!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM


 

i have seen and heard way too many lies by people who are “experts” saying that its bad and targeting kids. i want them to support vaping rather than trying to get rid of the only actual effective way to quit smoking
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM


 

most of the reports are outrageous and test the vaping device at levels that no person would actually use it at, because at those levels you no longer have the actual taste of the e liquid you have nothing but a burnt taste
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM


 The never ending saga of a biased media and their sheeple.
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:55AM


 

its unballanced and there is too much scaremungering going on from very ignorant people
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


 

Big tobacco money talks
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM


 

It is very confusing trying to figure out what is information from real studies or reliable sources as opposed to what is made up on a non fact based opinion. That goes for both positive and negative information. I have stopped reading anything because I don’t know what to trust is from an accurate source
Sunday, Jul 19th 10:45AM


 

It seems only the sensationalist, biased reports get the big headlines!
Sunday, Jul 19th 11:12AM


 

The media is attracted to negative stories.

From memory, there are 10 million smokers in the UK and 2.6M vapers. Of the vapers about 1M don’t dual use. I’m sure there’s plenty that don’t do either now. There needs to be a Panorama-type program to tell the good news truth about vaping and the money and power behind FDA and EU bans.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM


The propaganda is profoundly intellectually dishonest & scientifically incorrect.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 9:37AM


 

Most of what is out there is propoganda and when there is the side of vaping shown (pro vaping) it is far too often denounced. There are reports that show vaping honesty but they are few and far between because the govt does not want vaping to be seen as a good thing
Monday, Jul 13th 4:45PM


 

Junk science that is published them later pulled is stupid and irresponsable once it’s out there people believe it’s gotta be true when it isn’t
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM


 

There a a few unbiased reports out there, but most are fear-mongering.
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM


 

In the UK, I’ve seen both positive and negative coverage. But in the US it’s much worse, probably because of those vested interests. I do object to pharma companies putting signs in GPs offices saying ‘Don’t vape, stop smoking for good’ as it’s likely to put people off vaping. Vaping can save lives so why tell people not to do it? Insane.
Monday, Jul 13th 11:54AM


 

Heard some ridiculous stories. Battery safety is down to users, same as of you use a mobile phone, I have yet to meet anyone who has had anything more than a slight reaction to the pg. They simply used a Lewis worth more vg.

Monday, Jul 13th 3:30AM


 

Much of the media coverage (print and broadcast) reminds me of reports from the 80s and 90s suggesting that violent video games, television and rock music were responsible for teenagers committing serious crimes. Responsibility is being thrust on industry, rather than on parents, which is borderline atrocious

Sunday, Jul 12th 5:12PM


 

Very seldom do I see fair balanced reporting on the subject and when I see articles they are usually biased and slanted against Vaping and are chock full of misinformation and propaganda. The only fair and balanced information I have seen have been from the vaping industry itself.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:33PM


 

This is true of a lot of the reports on the news, but I have seen lots of good studies done by professionals based on REAL SCIENCE and accurate reporting standards. I would never say vaping is 100% safe, but some of the reports on the news are just irresponsible and dissuade people from switching from stinkies, when they aren’t even true.

Sunday, Jul 12th 2:15PM


 

The real issue is the indoctrination the media has both received and repeated for the last 50 years from anti-smoking lobbies. It is because of this that all consumer nicotine products are demonized, regardless of potential benefit.

Saturday, Jul 11th 6:43PM


 

There have been both sides of reports on vaping, depends on who is making the statement in the perticular article, I’m sure there will be debates for quite some time, I could care less, I smoked about 40 years , now I vape, I think it was a smart choice for me, I’m not concerned about health issues cause it can’t be worse than smoking, either way I’m apparently not going to live for ever , I’m pretty smart, smart enough to try vaping and get off cigarettes.

Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM


 

The impact of what is reported is much more detrimental to those who don’t know any better or TRUST the media.

 

That’s why I’m here.

If I had relied on media reports for information I would have been too concerned with the long term safety of e-cigarette use to try them and I would still be smoking today.

From New York, this individual’s complete response to this survey is here.



“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.



The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.


Regulate. Restrict. Tax. Ban. Taxing E-Cigarettes Like Tobacco.


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The all powerful, all knowing Offices of Management And Budget have the distinct decision of deeming regulations over e-cigarettes.

“Budget”.  Well. What does THAT have to do with e-cigarettes and the country? What does that have to do with the FDA (I thought they were the “authority”) and deeming regulations?

It’s about health, right? It’s about children, right?


If you DON’T know what I’m babbling about, you need to brush up on your information overload by going HERE to CASAA, and HERE immediately afterwards. You don’t even have to read this blog.


Regulate:

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1. to control or direct by a rule, principle, method, etc

regulate

regulations

Restrict:

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1. to confine or keep within limits, as of space, action, choice, intensity, or quantity.

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 restrict

Tax:

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1. a sum of money demanded by a government for its support or for specific facilities or services, levied upon incomes, property, sales, etc.
2. a burdensome charge, obligation, duty, or demand.

verb (used with object)

3. to demand a tax from (a person, business, etc.).

  1. to demand a tax in consideration of the possession or occurrence of (income, goods, sales, etc.), usually in proportion to the value of money involved.

4. to lay a burden on; make serious demands on: to tax one’s resources.

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UntitledWAIT!  NEVER MIND! We disassociated ourselves from that bill!

TAXES were taken out of it!

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Now it does no good?

I thought it was about YOUTH!

Public HEALTH!

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Guess NOT!

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Ban:

ban

1. to prohibit, forbid, or bar; interdict:

2. the act of prohibiting by law; interdiction.


They can’t BAN them. Well…. lean closer to your screen. Countries already have.

Regulations, restrictions, taxes & bans are world WIDE. Here, and HERE.


According to the World Health Associations Margaret Chan, at W.H.O. – this organization does NOT like ecigs, but likes regulations of them ….

W.H.O., HOWEVER DOES like money. It’s a win-win solution!

WHOTAX


 

This, was added 12/12/15 by me from the much admired Brainy Furball.
This isn’t just the United States. This is worldwide.
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Speaking of MARGARET Chan

More from Robert Innes:

When Collusion Is Profitable For Parties – All Six of Them!


I certainly do not believe they will “ban” them in the United States. They have had since 2009 to stew on this. They’ve had PLENTY of time to “deem” them tobacco.

THEN, they have the wording so they can TAX them like tobacco. I’ll get back to that in a minute.

See Steve and his timeline of e-cigarettes in the United States


See, at first, they were probably thought of as a novel idea. E-cigarettes weren’t a threat.

As they evolved into 2nd & 3rd generation styles, they were making a huge dent in cash flow.

Disrupting many aspects of cash flow.


Noticeable in 2000, Pharmaceutical companies feel it –  see smoking cessation aids sales drop.

Pharmaceutical Companies are really feeling it in 2014 in this article:

Nicotine patch, gum sales drop with rise of electronic cigarettes

As E-cigarette sales rose E-cigarette Sales Rising 


Tobacco Companies were going down in 2011… and still are as of September of last year, according to Business Insider:

Watch The US Slowly But Surely Become A Nation Of Nonsmokers


Well.

This is exciting, Kevin. There must be more! IS there more?

I’m glad you asked that !

I’m not sure who said “e-cigs are disruptive”, but – here, take a break – read Chris Price’s view on e-cigarettes as a disruptive technology.


11/18 update:

Stanton Glantz… and his submission to the world of the FDA is here.


 

Guess who else is pissed about disrupting their cash flow?

Organizations. Lots of them. They depend on lots and lots of funding to sustain themselves. Grants. Automatic payments. Money.

E-cigarettes are taking that away. They don’t like that.

How convenient.


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Finally, the United States Government – and other tax collecting entities. Ever notice when you bought a pack of smokes how the sign may say “cigarettes sold at state minimum”?  No? Me either.



This does not help the Government – to lose all this money. Pharmaceutical companies are calling their “friendly” senators.

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leno


Evidently, the group ASCAN

American Cancer Society Action Network –

already knows Congress actually works for them – not “the people”.

ugh



Upstanding *cough, cough*  “Tobacco Control” *cough –  experts are also involved.

They want what’s best for us.

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And the Government, all by itself, is caving in.

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The Government is missing their money.

They want it taxed like tobacco.

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They NEED e-cigarettes regulated

as TOBACCO. So they can TAX it.

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It is NOT tobacco.


But that is what they want it to be.

It won’t include their FRIENDS

“APPROVED” nicotine products that we’ve tried

and for the most part, DON’T WORK.


Those products are derived from magical unicorn farts, not tobacco.

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If you’ve read this far – remember

The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.


I need you to be ANGRY.


Support the organizations on this blog. Talk to people. CALL your congress/senators.

Write, email. hold up signs.

Call your media friends if you have any. Get the support of your doctors, schools, YELL.

Educate anyone you CAN.

TELL them this is about children having family members NO LONGER using tobacco.


TELL THEM this IS about HEALTH.


TELL them e-cigarettes take us AWAY from smoking.


TELL THEM it is NOT about NICOTINE.


We need a SWIFT and abrupt UPROAR worldwide.



Get mad. They’re taxing you because they miss their money.

It’s not even DEEMED tobacco, and it’s already happening in the United States.


You need to be ANGRY.


Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.


Stop ACCEPTING what is not true or real.

Nicotine is NOT TOBACCO. They want it deemed tobacco

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for loss of revenue they thought would LAST FOREVER. 

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E-Cigarettes are NOT acceptable to be part of their PONZI SCHEME.

WE stopped smoking. They WANT us to stop smoking. Now they don’t like that.

Less smoking, less revenue. It’s a PONZI scheme.


A documentary is coming, and not soon enough – (no rush, guys & gals) 🙂

about all of this:

A Billion Lives


Recommended reading:

How Wall Street Tobacco Deals Left States With Billions in Toxic Debt

Vaping Claimed First Victim One Year Ago

Tax Hikers Focused On 2016 Election

New CDC Data – More than 9 MILLION Adults Vape Regularly In The United States

Vaping For Tax Freedom

Burdensome vaping regulation about revenue, not health

DC budget would extend 70 percent tobacco tax to vapor products, e-cigarettes

Increased Tobacco Taxes Are Not the Answer

Mine:

Taxing Thoughts, A Ponzi Scheme.

Please Keep Smoking! Plausible Deniability, An Incestuous Relationship.

Without Integrity: Tobacco Harm Reduction In The U.S.A.

Lying Bastards


Some on the survey mentioned black market. Some proclaimed they’d do it themselves.
The only concern I’d have with that is – what about the current smokers who don’t know how or are afraid?
What will they do if e-cigarettes as we know them today with all generations – are considered illegal?
What about THIS lady?

Here are comments

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”

from the latest survey, unedited on question #41:

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco I believe:

 “Real People ~ Real Answers”


I make my own juice and would continue. I have a 20 year supply of nicotine in my freezer.
Friday, Oct 9th 10:52AM

One point, there would be less motivation, not no motivation. Because e-cigs have more to offer.
Thursday, Oct 8th 5:13PM

With no incentive to switch over why would they?
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM

it would be a heinous grievance against an entire community to make this change at this point in the game
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 2:03PM

That would be the worst thing you could do; limit the availability by keeping it out of a person’s financial reach.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 1:23PM

There would be a huge black market. I do not foresee myself paying taxes on my ejuice. lol.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM

Other quit smoking products are not taxed, at least not in Sweden or Estonia, to tax e-cigarette liquids would be insane.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:18AM

If they ban or regulate them to be as expencive as gums and pathes, the are making a huge mistake, a crime to public health.
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM

The cost savings was the biggest stimulation to try e-cigs.
Wednesday, Aug 19th 12:51AM

Apart from the obvious fact there is no legal reason to tax as tobacco, it would reduce the likely hood of some people trying them. As prices would be ridiculous it would also kill most of the industry that is already in place.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM

Ecigs will just become less appealing to new users, people established will find a way around anything, there will be a new black market to exploit.
Saturday, Aug 8th 7:53AM

Understand the patches, gum and inhalers are over the counter now and greatly reduced in price. The FDA a few yrs ago announced that there was no harm in nicotine useage from these products. Other than monetary gain for pharma companies, I can’t figure out why the fed and state gov’s would ban/restrict the use of vaping…..Except that individuals might be influenced with “donations”.
Thursday, Aug 6th 2:59AM

I would not have a problem, worst comes to the worst ill not use nicotine, and just mix my own as i do now!
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:25AM

It would be like the main goal of tobacco companies and the government would be money not my or anyone else’s health. This includes non-smokers because as a smoker they will inhale bad stuff, even if it’s 3rd hand smoke — which as a smoker they can get from my hair, clothes, home, car, etc. even if they are never ever around me while I actually smoke.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM

I make my own juice so that better not get more expencive!
Sunday, Aug 2nd 7:18PM


There would definitely be less motivation for smokers to try them. Money and health were the two reasons I tried them. It would be completely irresponsible to tax them at the same rate.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM

It might slow down the Vaping movement, but it would continue to grow. A Giant Black Market would arise.
Saturday, Aug 1st 8:16PM

I have the right to make choices about my health. I choose to vape and to be tobacco- and smoke-free.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:35PM

I think e-cigs should be taxed like any other product, but NOT like tobacco. Tobacco is taxed heavily because of the healthcare costs smoking produces. Vaping is not that dangerous, so it shouldn’t be taxed like tobacco.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:25PM

I can still afford it and would still vape, but it might easily deter others.
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:02PM

Criminal, but probably inevitable
Saturday, Aug 1st 4:34PM

Not sure how the could justify taxing e cigarettes or e liquids. Other than vat
If e liquids where heavily taxed then more people would start diy mixing which in my opinion could be more dangerous if not knowledgable.
Friday, Jul 31st 6:56PM

A lot of time, saving money is a big factor for quitting cig.
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM

If they tax it, it wont affect me because i mix my own… Mother fukka’s are so gready!
Monday, Jul 27th 12:59PM

if the taxes become outrageous then no new person is gonna bother trying and if the choices are limited then vaping will be no more successful than the patch or gum 😦
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:30PM

I am against any tax on e-cigarettes, it already costs to much for most people especially the ones that have moved from regular to e-cigs because they could no longer afford regular cigs.
Sunday, Jul 26th 1:11AM

As a machinist, I can make my own mech mods and attys. I build my own attys, I don’t use regulated power supplies, and I make my own juice. They can’t hurt me… but they can certainly have a negative effect on others, both new and experienced.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:50PM

they are in no way, shape, or form – tobacco, stop trying to tax them as such!
Saturday, Jul 25th 7:37PM

It will be a sad sad day when this happens. The biggest fear I have is government taking away what has clearly saved my life.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:15AM

the goverments want controll for the money it rakes in they just want their greedy little mitts on it. i think alot of people would go back to smoking, thats not good
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM

Politicians refuse to let a source of revenue lie dormant, peoples health is secondary
Tuesday, Jul 21st 11:52AM

I’ll make my own coils, my own juice – not going to tax me to hell and back.
Sunday, Jul 19th 9:50AM

I dont think taxes would stop people from vaping. I would not stop. But it will just weaken vaping and make it a bit less attractive, especially for new vapers.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:49AM

black market, nuff said.
big tobacco and their croneys can GFTS!!
Saturday, Jul 18th 4:31PM

I see no need to tax ecigarettes. We pay sales tax on this stuff, isn’t that enough for the state? It’s not my fault if the states depend on funds from a source that kills it’s consumers and needs to find money elsewhere now that they are earning less revenue do to people making a healthy switch. We should be rewarded for switching to vape since it’s a healthier alternative, not punished.
Saturday, Jul 18th 2:46PM

If the flavors are restricted or taken away, I wouldn’t be able to keep vaping. I’ve tried different tobacco flavors…even the tobacco flavor made by Marlboro…they all taste bad, even the menthol.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:24PM

It would also create a huge black market of which i would be going to.
Friday, Jul 17th 6:19PM

Motivation is multifactorial. I was actually motivated to buy my first ecig to replace the nicotine while I had a rabid ex-smoker in the house working for me. Once I tried it I felt I could use it to give up smoking for health. Money was never a motivation for me. “Is it cheaper” is usually the first question people ask me so it’s obviously a factor for most people.
Wednesday, Jul 15th 6:33PM

I hope it will be recognized as the help people need to quit smoking and NOT taxed.
Tuesday, Jul 14th 12:23PM

A black market could develop
Tuesday, Jul 14th 5:28AM

Of course, it wouldn’t result in people not trying e-cigarettes at all, just because they’re not cheaper than tobacco anymore. That’s not the point. But it would increase the threshold for people to “just give it a try and see if it works”. If, at the time, a pack of cigarettes was 5 EUR and that eGo-T kit would have been 10 EUR, I might have hesitated to just give it a try. It might be a good idea to tax nicotine concentrate a bit more, so people have some incentive to drop their nicotine consumption or go down to 0mg – after all, a caffeine addiction is still an addiction, too.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:03PM

i will import my goods meaning the UK will lose out on VAT.
Monday, Jul 13th 7:29PM

It would be criminal.
Monday, Jul 13th 5:24PM

They are NOT a tobacco product…so they should not be taxed as such
Monday, Jul 13th 2:11PM

There is absolutely no justification for treating vaping products the same as tobacco products.
Monday, Jul 13th 2:56PM

Taxes on tobacco were to offset the health care cost, vaping should be encouraged to help rid all of their need for tobacco
Monday, Jul 13th 12:55PM

Dear politicians, do NOT regulate it into a black market. I, however already have my black market sources set up. We ex-smokers ain’t playin’!!!
Monday, Jul 13th 1:27PM

The e-cig users I know would never go back to tobacco – even with a tax on e-cigs. I would complain about the tax but would never go back to cigarettes.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:50AM

It would increase costs for no good reason, assuming they aren’t made with tobacco.
Monday, Jul 13th 10:29AM

The fact that they are less expensive in the long run, combined with the fact that there is a big expense at the start, encouraging commitment to trying to stay with them instead of going back when it gets hard, makes e-cigarettes more likely to help smokers quit smoking for good. They should not be taxed like cigarettes are.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:33AM

Vaping is not smoking. Vaping is the solution to the problem of smoking.
Monday, Jul 13th 8:53AM

i think its mainly a matter of principles and semantics. foodies generally arent bulimic, it doesnt mean the same thing so why should they be put in the same basket? I am not a smoker anymore so why should I be opressed as one? yes, i said opressed. that being said im not an economy analyst
Monday, Jul 13th 8:45AM

everything that we as people like get taxed on everything ,if they tax us on vaping equipment lots of people would not try and probably never quit ,I find that disgraceful
Monday, Jul 13th 8:22AM

People in the e-cig industry already regulate their own products to a much higher standard than most other industries..
Monday, Jul 13th 7:10AM

it would be the government wanting money to make up for there loss no better than drug dealers
Monday, Jul 13th 5:56AM

Trying to make vaping less accessible irresponsible, dangerous and will cost lives.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:42AM

I am fairly confident I will never go back to cigarettes. They are disgusting.
Monday, Jul 13th 3:08AM

Never going back
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:27PM

How do you tax something as tobacco when there is no tobacco in it? Do they tax lighters and ashtrays like tobacco? Do they tax nicotine patches and gums like tobacco?
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:06PM

Some tax will be involved it’s the American way, but should Never be treated the same…
Sunday, Jul 12th 1:57PM

they should be taxed and regulated to an extent tobacco taxs are out of the question
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:32PM

If/when the e-cig industry gets taxed at the same level as the tobacco industry, you will see less motivation for borderline smokers/vapers to switch to vaping, in their minds it would be like; Why bother to smoke and vape, its gonna cost me about the same either way, I liked smoking, I’m gonna go back to smoking. Another thing I think you will see is the vape industry go underground, black market kinda thing. Online sales with little to no regulation what so ever will be the way to go. With some of the larger vendors become even larger and richer, and some of the smaller and mid size companies will expand and get larger as well. All the rest, the small fry will either get bought up by the other vendors, or will simply go out of business. It is scary to think that the politicians have the e-cig industry by the short and curlies, for what reason? GREED plain and simple.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:14PM

We are not using tobacco and vaporizers and eliquid should not be controlled and taxed the way tobacco is. Smoking cigarettes is deadly. Vaping is not.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:17PM

Small vape shops would not survive the costs.
Sunday, Jul 12th 2:04PM

I hope when regulations come and tax the products, they consider the fact most of our industry is comprised of businesses with 10 people or less. Please regulate us as such, we are not a giant corporation.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:40PM

Its probably gonna happen
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:55PM

This question should be split. Taxed=it would be totally unfair to vapers. Regulated=it would protect vapers.
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:23PM

I might go back to smoking because of the price … or go black market with health risks
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:39PM

How is punishing someone for choosing a healthier
lifestyle sane?
Sunday, Jul 12th 12:41PM

The prices would say rocket and people wouldn’t be able to afford it. If am item that is $120 and say gets taxed 70% like Washington DC the price goes up to $205 and that’s just the tax let alone what the shop needs to make a profit so like $230 alot of people including my self can’t afford that.
Sunday, Jul 12th 9:54AM

Those in charge would lower the percentage of niccotine in eliqiud , and we would be stuck with those silly cigarrete look a like e-cigs!
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:31AM

This is the only strategy that will get the government away from criticizing the industry.
Sunday, Jul 12th 10:40AM

I believe that the regulations for the E-cig industry will tower over the tobacco, in that there are over 4100 hazardous chemicals, 57 of them are known cancer causers in each puff of a cigarette. There is no comparison between the 2.
Sunday, Jul 12th 7:20AM

There will become a black market for them.
Sunday, Jul 12th 8:21AM

It would destroy the industry and hurt countless people!
Sunday, Jul 12th 5:38AM

Vaping saves lives compared to tobacco.
Sunday, Jul 12th 6:01AM

Money is one of the big motivating factors, I believe.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:45AM

taxing like cigarettes would drive people back to smoking as prices would be crazy high as they are its not a cheep alternative now
Sunday, Jul 12th 4:32AM

Taxing and regulating e-cigarettes the same as combustable tobacco products while keeping those on the market would result in people who could otherwise switch not doing so. Ultimately that would be detrimental to public health. Some people cannot or do not want to abstain from nicotine, and as adults should have the right to determine for themselves the form they wish to take their nicotine. However, those forms which are less harmful, or perceived to be less harmful to the individual user should be encouraged by less taxation and fewer regulations than combustible products with known health effects.
Sunday, Jul 12th 3:06AM

This would be a public health travesty.
Epic stupidity.
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:58PM

I don’t believe it should be regulated or taxed as a tobacco because it is not. Comparing apples to oranges…
Saturday, Jul 11th 9:18PM

if they made if so I cannot purchase the ingredients I need, like nicotine to make my ejuice. I would probably just go to zero nic. But MANY people would return to smoking. If I could not make zero nic ejuice I would probably fall into smoking rapidly.
Saturday, Jul 11th 7:34PM

just be a dangerous health question
Saturday, Jul 11th 6:32PM

Which would suit big tobacco and big pharmaceutical companies producing patches and gum for us all to rely on them.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:23PM

could become cost prohibitive.
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:07PM

The cost is often the first carrot to tempt people to make the switch, and any impediment to getting people to stop using traditional tobacco products is a very, very bad idea (except for Big Tobacco).
Saturday, Jul 11th 8:07AM

I would just by juice in parts and mix my own
Saturday, Jul 11th 4:21AM

This is about me not smoking cigarettes, not about taxes, if the government taxed e cigarettes I would be very disappointed , that would make a tax look like a tax grab not about a choice of the lessor of 2 evils.
Saturday, Jul 11th 2:57AM

Would make me hate tobacco and government even more. Astonishing how the greatest cause of preventable death in the world is still legal and on the market. People have voting power and the more people that take side with the viability of PV’s, the more influence there will be to prevent this from happening.
Saturday, Jul 11th 1:13AM

No matter what I’ll will not go back to tobacco , if I had to I would just completely quit it all , just have to replace my time with exercise , painting. Let’s see them tax that !!
Saturday, Jul 11th 12:59AM

I would still vape
Friday, Jul 10th 10:31PM

There are smokers and there are vapers seldom do I see both
Friday, Jul 10th 10:42PM

It is not tobacco.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:34PM

You cannot just pick up an ecig and vape. There is so much you need to learn to work the equipment properly and find a taste that you enjoy and a nicotine level that you need. Vape shops need to be able to explain various products they have. People need to be able to sample the e-liquid before they buy or they will just be wasting money on things that don’t work and just stick to smoking because it is so much easier.
Friday, Jul 10th 10:48PM

It will open the doors to subpar ejuices and mock mods, tanks accessories, black market. No one wants toxic chems in their ejuice, no one wants sub par Mods, tanks.
Friday, Jul 10th 3:04PM

There´s allways a choise not to pay too much. Though it would ruin business locally (the few left, most of them allready went abroad)
Thursday, Jul 9th 2:23PM

While many of us (myself included) would continue to vape regardless (because we are capable of DIY building everything necessary from devices, to vaporizers, to e-liquids) this would stop thousands or more from being able to successfully kick the smoking habit!
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:22PM

If categorized as a tobacco product, people may think they are just as harmful. Also, the fact that ecigs are much cheaper is a huge factor in people deciding to try them, and ultimately quit cigarettes all together.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 12:12PM

Vaping is not a tobacco product.
Wednesday, Jul 8th 1:33AM

It would be an unconscionable effort by the government to recoup lost revenues from the cigarette taxes that they have profited from to date. History will reveal the great lies and deceit of the tobacco vilification of our semi recent political climate regarding tobacco use, and the huge government profits gained by this slanted social agenda.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 10:22PM

I wouldn’t be going back to smoking but it would effect those who currently smoke.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 6:42PM

I think regulation would be better for safety, but taxing like tobacco would be bad.
Tuesday, Jul 7th 2:37PM

I would start mixing my own e liquid and buy hardware from overseas or from ‘vaping underground’
Monday, Jul 6th 9:57AM

Doesn’t bear thinking about.
Sunday, Jul 5th 10:54AM

Make your own E juice it’s easier then most people think.
Saturday, Jul 4th 4:45PM

And obviously – the only people to gain from this is the government.
Wednesday, Jul 1st 11:58PM

In countries where sale of e-liquids containing nicotine, this would in effect legalize those liquids. This of course means, that the regulation is not completely skewed to not reflect the amounts people use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 7:18PM

There would be less motivation for smokers to try them. Many vapers would go back to smoking. It would be likely for the emergence of a ‘black market’ with products really dangerous to public health similar to the trade in illicit alcohol.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 2:55PM

Regulation also has the issue that it would basically kill all the BETTER devices, mods, atomizers etc. and cig-a-likes would invade the markets which almost everyone knows are not effective / satisfying at all. Also one of the main things compared to smoking has always been SAVING MONEY while having some “bad habbit”. Taxing and regulation would make everything much more expensive than what it is and would also kill smaller businesses and give e-cigarette industry to tobacco companies who have the money.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:43PM

One of the reasons i switched over to vaping is that its a LOT cheaper than smoking( atleast in Finland). Roughly 5€ a pack of smokes, 1 pack a day is 150€ a month. I ordered liquids that i mix myself, cost roughly 80€, and it lasts me 4-6 months.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 10:29AM

No proven harm = NO SIN TAX. They can tax it when they calculate harm and tax-payer burden in financial terms, but it should also reflect the savings/reduction in harm from cigarette use. A decrease in sin tax revenue from tobacco is NOT a reason to tax as they are supposed to be collected to cover associated social costs of cigarette use, which would drop along with cigarette use.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 9:07AM

…and cause many many more people to die unnecessarily from tobacco related illnesses.
Tuesday, Jun 30th 12:22AM

Vaping is a safer form of smoking and most definitely prolongs people’s well-being should they switch to vaping over tobacco, therefore should not be taxed
Monday, Jun 29th 4:42PM

Taxation already exists in the form of VAT on purchases. If taxation is increased I will shop more from abroad to avoid paying the UK Government monies I do not believe are justifiable.
Monday, Jun 29th 5:51AM

I don’t think I would go back, but I would probably look at untaxed sources
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:19PM

Flavours and nic strength wouldn’t be such a choice either. Not to mention finding a device for each individual.
Sunday, Jun 28th 5:53PM

It would be likely to reduce access to non-smokers wanting to vape. That being said, this is a low number of people who it would affect.
Sunday, Jun 28th 2:35PM

They should NOT be taxed – end of.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:27AM

Sales tax alone is income to the government, sales that otherwise would not be there. Anything more is just government greed and abuse of governmental authority and power. There should not even BE a “sin tax”. Furthermore overtaxing will destroy the industry and put it firmly in the hands of Big Tobacco.
Sunday, Jun 28th 11:00AM

#1. Some people will always smoke cigarettes.
#2. It depends on how high the tax is. If it is
less than cigarettes we have a chance at
introducing them to smokers to save money (and
improve their health)
#3 If the tax is comparable to cigarettes, then
we approach the smoker on change of lifestyle,
improved health, better living environment,
etc.
Sunday, Jun 28th 10:46AM

Very sad day.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:46AM

Some teens have a passing interest in e-cigarettes, but are far more interested in smoking. One of the biggest draws is saving money over smoking – health is a far second.
Sunday, Jun 28th 8:24AM

In the UK we pay VAT on vaping anyaway so there is no real need to tax.
Sunday, Jun 28th 9:12AM

I would find a black market
Sunday, Jun 28th 7:00AM

While I would never smoke tobacco again, I know many who aren’t far enough along the quitting process and would revert to smoking.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:36AM

I think the government wants use to smoke as they get a lot of money from smokers. I am sad to say that but I think it is true.
Sunday, Jun 28th 12:01AM

I’m one of the few people that enjoy saying, “I don’t know” when asked something I don’t know the answer to
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:45PM

If e-cigarettes are taxed and regulated the same way tobacco is, this would cause a lot of small businesses to be shut down because they wouldn’t be able to afford the measures needed to meet these absurd regulations, or they would have to upcharge their products so much that it would be MORE expensive than cigarettes. This would put an end to innovative vaping technologies, creative thinking, and ultimately drive vapers back to smoking!
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:23PM

ofcourse, tax it, and I’ll buy tax free online internationally thankyou very much, but if vaping was made to cost anything close to the price of smoking, it would be a complete disaster, it would give smokers no real motivation to vape vs smoke.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:10PM

It wouldn’t effect me because I DIY.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:02PM

This is where the government needs to be locked out!
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:28PM

My shop would close the day after that tax went into effect.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:22PM

It would be a crime! People deserve the chance and it isn’t tobacco so don’t tax it like it is. Part of quitting tobacco was to save me money.
Saturday, Jun 27th 3:05PM

Taxed like Tobacco would deter people from wanting to try it because they’re paying the same tax on vapor products as they would cigarettes.. At that point it would only come down to the people who would really want to stop, and need the alternative.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:46PM

This is perhaps the biggest concern I have right now. I want to see anyone who wants to try e-cigs to have the chance!
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:57PM

Price is driving a good deal of my business. Taxes will hurt.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:27PM

I originally tried it because I wanted to save money. I really had no expectation of quitting since nothing I’ve tried had worked. If they cost the same as tobacco cigarettes, less people may be inclined to try them. I quit over a year ago and the only reason I’m not saving ugh money is because it has become a hobby collecting gear and new devices.
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:37PM

Taxation would mean more people keeping on smoking and not trying egigs
Saturday, Jun 27th 2:33PM

It would lessen the incentive for tobacco users to switch to vaping
Saturday, Jun 27th 11:55AM

nothing would change except pricing
Saturday, Jun 27th 10:13AM

And it would be illegal in France to tax them as tobacco or even near.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:50AM

It would deter new people to vaping, but to those of us that are experienced it wont. How are you going to tax pg vg and flavor? It is really easy to make, coils wick and all. That’s what’s driving everyone insane. They can tax the disposables, but no one buys them now anyway.
Saturday, Jun 27th 7:27AM

I am lucky, I can make mods, atties and juice. Most will not have this luxury.
Saturday, Jun 27th 6:49AM

It would seriously harm vaping and could destroy it.
Saturday, Jun 27th 5:27AM

I would stop vaping and I wouldn’t use any tobacco products.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:40AM

It can already be inaccessible financially, I feel further taxation, particularly in the ranges I’ve seen proposed, would be downright discriminatory to lower income individuals.
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:19AM

I’d be pissed off!
Saturday, Jun 27th 1:00AM

we will make a black market,no thanks on your tax..
Saturday, Jun 27th 12:32AM

I personally would try to find a black market solution to avoid pointless taxation and stealth vape in public places.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:21PM

Primarily, the majority of folks that would still vape are those that have truly experienced how bad smoking can harm the body.
Friday, Jun 26th 11:33PM

I think it would have to be fairly draconian for me to consider going back to smoking. Will undoubtedly slow take up and discourage switching though, which would be a big fail for public health.
Friday, Jun 26th 4:54PM

I can make literally everything I need myself, except for the nicotine extract. If it’s taxed to hell, I’ll just be planning semi-annual trips to Mexico.
Just sayin’.
Friday, Jun 26th 1:43AM

I won’t be going back to smoking
Thursday, Jun 25th 8:08PM

It depends on the regulations set. If it was controlled by the cigarette industry I really do not know what I would do.
Thursday, Jun 25th 1:59PM

If you treat it like tobacco it will have a stigma of tobacco this may put people off from trying also as money sometimes can be a factor taxing it would also not help it should be treated as a consumer product with some regulations ie 18 age restriction with support of health officials as a way of stopping using tobacco
Thursday, Jun 25th 7:42AM

The government only cares about your tax money and will do whatever it takes to get it. The health argument is just a political goto strategy.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:28PM

I would learn to make my own ejuice!
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:29PM

stupidest decision on the planet
Wednesday, Jun 24th 11:09PM

it will assist with closing local shops. And I wll not buy online, so therefore could push me back to smoking tobacco
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:37PM

Flavourings are used in food as well and would be very hard to tax, nicotine and vg/pg would be hard to tax as well and can be stored in freezers for years to come.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 5:04PM

People will continue to smoke, even if ecigs were being given away.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:29PM

SIN TAX OK
CIGARETTE TYPE TAX NOT OK
Wednesday, Jun 24th 1:49PM

To treat e-cig users as smokers, and e-cig products as tobacco products, infringes on our rights. It is ignorant and dishonest. it makes me question the people who have been elected into power and the industries pulling their strings.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 9:11AM

Taxed or regulated as tobacco, would be seen as “being the same as tobacco” – even though vaping CLEARLY is not smoking.
The same as banning people to walk around in public with water bottles, since no one can tell if its really water in that bottle, or maybe vodka/gin?
There has to be an incentive to switch to vaping – other than improving health. Harm reduction and harm reversal seems to be the main goals of switching, and the most smokers are low-middle income people, that really wants to save a penny and get on with a life not chained to smoking cigarettes. If tobacco/vaping were to be taxed and regulated even stricter, with higher prices – that would only benefit the big companies and the governments … the smokers/vapers would still buy the products (liquids/e-vapes/cigarettes) even if the price went skyhigh, and the rest of the family (the children) will be left to pay the ultimate sacrifice: What ever money is left, after the vaping/smoking products has been bought, is what is left for food, clothes a.s.o.
Tobacco/vaping gear are “BARE NECESSITIES” – or “need to have” – food and clothes will (by smokers) be seen as “nice to have”.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 10:48AM

My circle of novice users and I will continue vaping because we have a large amount of private stock to last us for 10 years or more. Everyone should do that. someone who Taxes a healthier alternative over tobacco does not earn respect and should never win.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:12AM

Personally, I will NOT go back to smoking tobacco, whatever the law is. If necessary, I’ll become a criminal – after being a good citizen for almost 50 years.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 4:31AM

in my country it would be twice as expensive as
smoking is so it will be harder to get people to
switch over to the amazing world of vaping sadly
Wednesday, Jun 24th 6:10AM

Governments would also be attaching their revenues to a variable source which their motivation is to see diminish. This is the very definition of fiscal insanity and must be resisted, not for the health of the vaping industry but for the health of the population as a whole.
Wednesday, Jun 24th 12:21AM

cost is always a factor but if they cost the same I would still use my vape rather than smoking because it has allowed me to ween off nicotine
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:49PM

for myself, i don’t care. I build my own coils, i can DIY for my liquid to avoid taxes. But it will prevent some smokers from trying and that’s a shame.
Unfortunatly, Taxes may be the only thing that will make governments support the ecig. If they can get their money from the ecig, as much as with the regular ones, and with less health issues….believe me, if this happens, you will see a bunch of officials and media praising the holy ecig…
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:33PM

I believe I would totally quit. We are taxed to death now.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28PM

The states would reap the profits the small store would close and people will go back to tobacco use because it will be cheaper.( i can guarantee that) people will be dying from smoking more and more. This is not the right answer
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24PM

You can’t regulate something like tobacco if there isn’t tobacco in it.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:27PM

..in Canada to classify a product as something that it is not, for the purpose of regulation/taxation.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:23AM

For me, my e-cig is a health product, why would they tax something that’s saving them spending money to treat me for health issues?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:06PM

If ecigs are treated the same as tobacco, it will deter smokers from switching. If it comes to the point that ecigs are no longer available or so expensive I couldn’t afford them, I’d go straight to the black market without any guilt whatsoever.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 12:17PM

Treatments for disease (tobacco addiction) should not be taxed. Sin tax was placed on tobacco to offset the healthcare costs. There is no evidence that vaping causes any harm to health or increased cost to healthcare. If anything reducing smoking reduces health consequences. We should be handing vapes out in hospitals & healthcare facilities
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 1:00PM

Just like when cigarette taxes increased and we saw an increase of tobacco trafficking, we will see the industry move underground. And probably with a lot more success than tobacco ever had, as it’s not that difficult to do much of this stuff yourself.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:32AM

Before I started vaping I was spending 500$ or more a month between the wife and myself. After starting vaping its half that per month, however, I do splurge on new mods 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 11:32AM

They say smoking costs the NHS a lot of funds over the years, so are taxed to help cover those funds, yet people that vape are now not using the service for smoking related illnesses, which in the long term should see less having to be spent because of people having a healthier lifestyle?
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 10:57AM

If e-cigarettes were taxed, I would be pissed-off, but I would still use them (and start hunting for good deals online!)
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:07AM

So stupid to tax it. But we all know its coming.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 9:14AM

Again MONEY is the primary objective. Big Tobacco and Pharmacuticals have lost aLOT of money due to less revenue by individuals choosing to VAPE. It is a BRUTAL shame that many (IF taxed/regulated) a smoker may never try vaping for THAT reason. I may spend more now stockpiling but in the long run, it will pay for itself! Would I go back to smoking – NO, I’ve been on the other side too long. I have stocked up on a multitude of supplies.
Never will I give my funds to do harm t my body and honestly the thought of the taste of burning tobacco … bleck !
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:32AM

If E cigarettes are regulated the same as tobacco products then we may as well sick a fork in my eye as there is no hope and the world has gone mad!
oh i know lets regulate something to the point its impossible for users to have a decent vape then tax it and encourage converting back to killer cigarettes costing the nhs a fortune stupid f@*ked up world.
Sarcasm!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 8:16AM

I believe the government does not care one
bit about our health. It’s all about the tax.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:07AM

Vaping should be encouraged, and for those that need help affording this technology, the money raised from smokers for smoking should be made available to any smoker who wishes to quit smoking in any manner.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:48AM

ecigs will eventually become the norm for nicotine delivery!
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 7:47AM

There is no reason to tax like cigarettes, that is just a money grubbing tactic by the government because so many people are quitting they are losing money. Some states states are going to be in it deep when they need to start paying off the tobacco settlement money bonds.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:28AM

Would make it just as expensive and therefore less viable choice for quitting.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:24AM

People with health awareness could still prefer vaping no matter the cost.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 6:20AM

taxation will not effect me unless it’s at a ridiculous rate
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 5:58AM

It would be criminal and the worst decision ever made by trying to gain money from a health product.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:42AM

This is why I learned to wrap and wick coils, and to make my own e-liquid. The government can stuff their taxes in any orifice they feel appropriate. 🙂
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:57AM

I would sue the government, and seek criminal charges.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:54AM

If e-cigarettes are taxed / regulated as tobacco, I believe the government who passes that legislation has effectively murdered millions of people.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:33AM

It depends on how extensive the taxing was and how much the prices would go up. But yes any taxing would make it less accessible and more likely to deter people from trying.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 4:22AM

It would be a stupid thing to do as one of the main reasons for taxing tobacco is to deter users due to the danger.
Tuesday, Jun 23rd 3:33AM

MEDIA, you’re NEXT.


Research on ECIGS is well published and available  HERE and HERE

Medical Professionals are HERE


A work in perpetual progress: Vapinglinks.com

More to come – including the final analysis of the last survey!

As I logged into my blog this morning, I checked a few things. In doing so, I realized – to my surprise –  this is my 100th blog.

55,482 visitors in almost a year, with 97,735 views.

Small numbers in comparison to some I am sure, but I hope you enjoy reading my information as much as I enjoy giving it to you.

I thank you all for your support and friendship both on Facebook and Twitter.

Keep On #Vaping On
Kevin.

The Many Faces Of Tobacco Control. Simple Simon Chimpman.

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Every dog, or in this case, chimp, has his day. We’ve all had personal and professional triumphs. We’ve suffered losses, failures. We at first ~ especially when we’re younger, hungry trying to “change the world”, hopefully for the better.
To make a mark in life – there’s absolutely nothing wrong with that. Specifically, if you’re in the public health field, you’d want that to be a lasting mark. You’d want that to be memorable. You’d want to help people. Change lives for the better.

Reducing or eliminating smoking would be a start.


My father had some sayings. “Know for a fact” was one.
‘I’m not just another pretty face” was another.

Simon Chapman, Tobacco Control. A man on a mission.
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Let me speak first of all – to the surprise of some of you, of Chimpmanzee having done “some good”. In 1983, he wrote The Lung Goodbye. (That document being held in the UCSF website  – Truth Tobacco Industry Documents – presumably held in trust by fellow chimpster, Stanton Glantz.)
Surely, in the scheme of things, The Lung Goodbye was groundbreaking stuff. I’ve enjoyed it very much. Great insight in there. Showing how to fight the tobacco companies like a pit-bull.
I myself used it – Credited it like asked, and never even so much as got a thank you – you ungrateful monkey.
No, that’s not it, Chump. No, that’s not it, Chimp. There, that’s better.

controlexperts
I figured from the very beginning of my “twitter” life, I would follow the very people who are against e-cigarettes. It was a no-brainer! I wanted to learn from them. Obviously they know something I don’t. Obviously from their tenure, experience, education, background, knowledge MUST be free flowing and available for the world to see.
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I thought it would be advantageous to see exactly what those e-cigarette users weren’t telling me. They MUST have been hiding something!  I was fully confident – professors like GlANTZ. Chimpman. MONcKee. Chimpewell….. those academic geniuses I was finding by the hour would know ALL about e-cigarettes…. surely they would tell all!
MONKEYS2NONE of them HAVE research. They like to look at everyone elses… make comments… create a stir… throw their feces around….  but not do their own research.
Shortly after joining, I created my first survey realizing these chimpanzees were not receptive to “common” former smokers, dual users and completely quitters!
BOY oh BOY was I ever excited to share my anecdotal evidence with them and the world, heck maybe I’d be invited in for banana hour at the local college!
First Vaping Survey Final Analysis.
I enjoyed following Chimpmanzee. I learned things about wind farms and other drivel!
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I myself had more than a few tweets with him before being blocked. So sad. I had so much to learn.

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simon and the infant

Simon Chimpman: Put in his place.
Chimpman has been called a World Class Comedian by Dick Puddlecoat.
Chimpman has been described as Simple Simon by Christopher Snowden.
Chimpman has received from the eloquent Lorien Jolly, A Lesson In Manners.
Chimpman has #evidently become part of the tobacco control circus.
Chimpman has even taken on Clive Bates. Here’s Clive’s response.
I’m sure there’s more, I just don’t want you getting hit with any flying feces. You know how chimpanzees can enjoy tossing their own excrement.

More than enough to go around, Chimpanzee likes to make statements over tweets of others.
Much to my amusement, so do I.
simon

The difference between myself and Chumpmonkey – a “professional” who is allegedly knowledgeable, educated and wrong – should be held to a much higher standard. In the academic world, the professional world, and in the very world of tobacco control? I’d think so.
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The difference is  – I’m not a professor. I’m a citizen.

 Please take your own advice:

respect the evidence

That is part of his

“10 pieces of advice to early career researchers and advocates”


You would think ANYONE in tobacco control would be for e-cigarettes as an alternative to smoking. There’s no tobacco. There’s no smoke. He’ll tweet his opinion. (Note the applause of Chimpwell in this below)
simonnot

Are you done laughing yet???


Troll his opinion, some would say:

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Here’s his explanation as to

why HE blocks trolls on Twitter.


Here he talks about ethics:   Ooops……

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He is not LAWFULLY PERMITTED  –  however he pretends to throw his feces around, to DO medical research or study in relation to human health.
   simonnotpermittedtomedicalresearch
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Added 5/29/16:

Chappers LOVES control.

 

 

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Don’t SHARE it!

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His self-absorbed trolling got the best of him last year.

He trolled the wrong person.

He DID offer – persuaded surely – and published an apology for this:

Final-Apology

So… in that spirit, I’m going to offer my “final apology” for this blog in advance.

Correction & Apology
CORRECTION & APOLOGY FROM @VapingIT.
TO Simon Chimpman.
I am a consumer, private citizen and more than a casual observer of your stupidity on Twitter.
On 14 November, 2015, I posted the above blog. With pleasure. I do enjoy your inept attempts at barely being relevant, holding on to a banana peel with all your might to have your final influence on the world of tobacco.
It’s fun to watch.
Under the impression you were a “professional”, my blog implied you were a chimpanzee. I realize this may cause concern and implications. I have since realized you may well be an ape, and I want to apologize to any chimpanzees I may have offended – in any manner.
I certainly don’t need chimpanzees coming after me. The allegations of you being a professional in any capacity of tobacco harm reduction for the masses were obviously misconstrued by me. I will do what I can to keep others from believing you are a professional.
I realize you are not lawfully permitted to perform research, or conduct said research, and cannot be expected to speak intelligently with a banana in one hand, your excrement in the other AND know what massive amounts of research there is to understand with e-cigarettes.
Maybe the English department can read it to you.
I presume you just don’t understand all that mumbo jumbo without pictures.
I suggest you also see the Psychology department. You seem to have too much trouble interacting with people who have stopped smoking with e-cigarettes.
It looks as if you are having trouble accepting the fact that all those years of trying to convince people to stop smoking have been for nothing.

I have a feeling this isn’t the first time you’ve been replaced by a battery operated device and it is bothering you.

As a secondary and less important note, I’ve tried to hone and sharpen my blogging skills enough over the past year to be charged with defamation of your character. Much to my own disappointment, after all the amateur research I’m able to do with a job and family, it turns out I couldn’t find that you have character. Turns out –  you actually have none.
I can only hope you are held accountable for deterring smokers from trying to stop smoking with e-cigarettes.
Criminal charges are preferred.
I also want to point out, that despite your “quit or die” motto – you don’t want smokers to use these “APPROVED METHODS“ , vapers are not dying by the standards you’d like to see.

deathsfromecigs

We’ll be around a bit longer to point out your lack of qualifications, irrelevance and – of course, just when you’re wrong in many aspects of your tweets and – blog…
I sincerely apologize to any truthful Scientists, Researchers and Doctors worldwide if I’ve offended them because they have earned my immense respect by doing research, and understanding the possibilities with e-cigarettes, and the ability of those wonderful people to reduce tobacco use worldwide.
Former Smoker Because Of E-Cigarettes,
Kevin.

 

 

Update. Simon retweeted this article.

What a guy.

 

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 ** Added 12/11/15. Because he’s not an enemy of vaping…

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My response to your BMJ Blog is here- just in case it’s “not approved”


 

Responsibility of a professional is less harm, Mr. Chapman.

With the faulty evidence presented, with no research on nicotine being addictive on its own (please show me that) and the fact you would much rather live in a past, create an illusion of control and authority, and pretend e-cigarettes are a gateway, and to ignore the research – is of great concern.

I read The Lung Goodbye. I was absorbed and intrigued by that. As great and insightful as it was, as a great example and a wonderful history lesson in the battle you once waged against tobacco, it also shows the tactics you’re still using against what is taking people away from tobacco today. Counterproductive.

There is responsibility in academics, is there not, to present ALL the facts? Would you as a professor, teach your students half of the facts and let them presume or assume the rest?

Science, proper research. It’s all available. Very disappointing to know your views are to cite what was rather than what is.

Citing “children” and flavors is as much an effort to gain support as it is to distract from facts. E-cigarettes take people away from tobacco by the millions.

If that fact is not acknowledged, if that a-ha moment does not come to someone in tobacco control as many years as you have been in it, then you’re more worried about your relevance than you are of tobacco use or you have other motives.

If it is “children” you would like to distract with, by all means, continue on your journey. Meanwhile, the adults will continue to take themselves away from smoking and by default, will make cigarettes slowly – almost completely away with or without you.

I hope one day, without question, you will not concede, but put forth effort to understand why they work , what can be done to make them even better, and have productive conversations about what can be done to make them even safer than they already are. Productive conversations as to advertising. Productive conversation, as opposed to working towards deterring both freedom of choice and common sense towards what seems to be the ultimate goal. Less use of combustible tobacco.

The litmus test? Do they work? Do they do less harm?

The scream test? Children and inciting doubt.

E-cigarettes worked for me, accidentally, after 30+ years of smoking. In the end, I’d much prefer a healthy engagement with anyone – including you, to make the goal of less combustible tobacco a reality by a reliable and viable choice with e-cigarettes for the smoker to turn to, where other methods have not worked.


This, added on 01/02/16:

http://theconversatire.com/

from the account:

Fake Simon Chapman @SimonChapmanAO

 

is hilarious!

 


 

 

When I saw this next link from Jim McManus, I did not know his background, however – this is one of the most eloquent ways to change one’s mind.

Jim has spoken out here on his blog:

How & Why I Changed My Mind On E-cigarettes.


The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

expertsunset


E-Cigarettes, Long Term Risks & Health Implications.

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More dangers about e-cigarettes are sure to come out. Experts are constantly finding a new study every day. The media likes to keep the public misinformed. Some experts put their two cents in and the whole world is still confused.

Long term effects are still unknown is claimed by worldwide “experts”.

I LOVE that statement. If you claim there are “long term effects” of e-cigarettes and you don’t know what they are, it is probably your job to KNOW.

After 10+ years of them being on the market, I appreciate you showing how you don’t know how to do your JOB.


In the United States, (according to the Centers For Disease Control) there are 9 million e-cigarette users.

(That’s 9 million non-smokers, by the way).

How do e-cigarettes affect the user? What are the health implications?


Turns out, as you will see below, e-cigarette users not only decrease or eliminate smoking, they also reduce –  in MANY cases,
eliminate medications they’ve been taking for various ailments for years…

Makes one wonder what all those chemicals in cigarettes do to both cause & suppress symptoms…


The very idea that there are long term issues using e-cigarettes CAN be true.

Tell me how “approved” methods work again?


For those of you who think e-cigarettes are just like cigarettes, please show your evidence.
Posthaste.

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Question #27 was posed:

Have you increased, decreased or eliminated any medications since using an ecigarette?

Let’s get to the anecdotal evidence, shall we?


One major think that I have noticed is that while I was smoking Tobacco Cigarettes,I used to get sick 2 to 3 times a year. In the past 2-1/2 years that I have been “Vaping”, I was only sick once!

Less medication COPD

My bp meds were reduced to lowest dose (75% lower)

Pain killers for pre-existing conditions. I attribute that to a better supply of oxygen helping to heal damaged tissue.

i use my inhailers less often now that i’m vaping and not smoking
i have asthma and copd ( sorry spelling )

I don’t have to take my omeprazole for gastritis anymore

Was able to get off blood pressure medicine

Anxiety meds gone. Heartburn meds gone. Chronic diarrhea gone.

halved dosage for GERD

I don’t take any medications except for occasional ibuprofen for a headache.

As stated above, no more need for anti nausea meds and prescription acid reflux meds. My esophagus finally healed from all the heartburn related to smoking.

My health is going better way with my e-cigarette.

Stopped- asthma inhalers, albuterol nebulizer (stopped w Dr supervision & approval due to improvements in lung function & blood o2 levels)
Stopped – anxiety meds and antinausea meds (stopped myself, didn’t need em anymore)

Unfortunately damage has already been done so I am still on asthma meds. plus beta blockers for the heart attack I suffered 8yrs ago, however, have had no angina since I started vaping.

These medications are not vaping or smoking related

I have been lucky to not need regular medication for any reason.

I have severe emphysema and since I started vaping my breathing is better. I do not cough at all. I have not had any chest or sinus infections since beginning to vape
Overall my health has improved

Long term asthma inhailor. no longer in use and quick response maybe once a year…

this is not due to vaping I am a chronic pain suffer and asthmatic I used to blow a 450 to 500 now its 700 to 800 on a peek flow meter so my lungs have got better thanks to vaping

A lot less cold and sinus meds and antibiotics.

less joint pain and coughing related headaches, led to the halted use of non prescription pain relievers.

Less migraines = Less Excedrin
Fewer colds/sore throats = Less Robitussin ETC

I use Ventolin inhaler. I was using it 4 to 5 times per day when I smoked. Now I use it maybe 2 or 3 times a week. Awesome!!

I no longer suffer from lung infections/bronchitis as often, causing me to no longer seek medication for it when it arises.

No allergy/ hayfever gone

Haven’t had flu or a cold since I switched. Used to get flu twice a year like clockwork – beginning and end of winter.

I was on antidepressants and found that I do not need them while on the ecig as I don’t feel so stressed.

Zantac reduced.

Reduced Cpap pressure, down to using no allergy medication

never had any health problems. I mainly quit smoking due to cost and finding out my son was starting on the same path as me.

Much less use of asthama inhalers

O don’t use my blue inhailer as much as before I quit

Eliminated preventative steroidal inhaler, vastly decreased rescue inhaler/nebulizer.

I no longer take any blood pressure medication 🙂

No pain killers needed I’m pain free wahoo

Have not needed my ventolin since I quit smoking and started vaping.

Do not require the use of my inhailer as often.

No more inhalers or broncitus meds

Less allergy medicine

Reduction in the usage of Salbutamol (Ventolin) inhalers as a rescue bronchodilator.

No more inhalers or blood pressure medications and I have lost 55 pounds.

Blood pressure and cholesterol meds were both reduced, and Plavix was eliminated completely (because my clogged arteries cleared up!).

discontinued two prescription drugs for respiratory/allergy issues.

When i where smoking i had the “flu” at least 4 times a year, in the 2 years gone with vaping i havent been sick once!

Cholesterol and blood pressure meds gone!

I no longer have to use inhalers

Because of other ailments not attached to smoking but because of my other problems

I have COPD from smoking cigarettes and I was on O2 at the time that I quit smoking. About a year after I started using e-cigarettes and stopped smoking I was able to get off of O2 completely.

dont have to take my stomach pills every day

no longer need cholesterol medications

no longer need allegra

I no longer use inhalers or need antibiotics for URIs.

Tylenol use has been reduced since my headaches happen less frequently. Also sinus medication like sudaphed is no longer needed.

I have high blood pressure and my medication has dropped by half.

I don’t have headaches and was able to stop taking Tylenol on a daily basis. My nerves are much calmer and my anxiety has gone down.

I’ve eliminated daily maintenance asthma meds, lessened by a lot the usage of rescue medicine, eliminated 2 GERD medications

Im almost of my anti anxiety meds

No longer have to use my asthma inhaler. The day I quit smoking is the last time I have used an inhaler and that was more than 2 years ago

I no longer have seasonal walking pneumonia that required steroids, inhalers and antibiotics.

No more blood pressure medication because my lungs are healthy enough for me to exercise regularly without respiratory issues

Did not get sick over the winter as usual

Blood pressure meds reduced

no need to use steroids, antibiotics or inhalers anymore

not on any breathing aids or anything like that but i bet i would have been if i hadn’t stopted smoking. my mother had every breathing problem under the sun, she only stoped smoking in the last 3 years of her life

I am currently offof blood pressure meds, and am not using breathing meds for COPD

anti biotics from chest infections

Using Asthma inhaler once or twice a month instead of 3 – 4 times a day

I am now permanently on high blood pressure meds – but cannot blame this on ecigs as menopause started around the same time. HBP can be a side effect of menopause.

My high blood pressure medication dosage was halved…but I lost 42 pounds.

The dependency I had on my asthma inhaler has decreased dramatically

I have stopped needing my inhailor as much

My blood pressure is now normal ( no need for pills)
Blood sugar has gotten better ( no need for pills )

Not myself personally however my mom who is a chronic asthmatic and has never smoked, has started vaping and her asthma is almost completely gone. From finishing an asthma pump every week to one lasting her now a whole month!

Completed eliminated GERD medication, which I had to take almost all of my smoking career.

No more HEadaches and very rarely ever take an aspirin now.

dropped blood pressure meds

Used to get bad headaches from the carbon monoxide and took alot of aspirin but no longer

blood presure pills have gone now

I had severe sleep apnea while smoking. After two years with an ecig, i no longer have to wear a cpap.

Blood pressure is now normal. I was taken off medication to control.

I had persistent AMD when I was smoking, and had to have injections in my eyes quarterly to preserve my sight. Once I started vaping instead of smoking, my eyesight improved immediately, and I no longer needed injections.

Have not had to use antibiotics or visit the Dr. for smoker related illness in over 3 yrs. Amen, I say!

No longer take Depression Meds

dosage level of high blood pressure medicine was lowered in mg

Decongestants & cold medications were a staple. I rarely use them now. I do have allergies that make some necessary.

I haven’t needed my allergy or asthma medications as frequently due to less flare-ups of both.

I use my asthma inhaler less and sometimes I can get away with using my vape to help me breathe better in a pinch–like when I forget my inhaler at home.

I was on antibiotics about every 3 months for various respiratory infections. Have not taken them at all since starting vaping.

I have increased my consumption of OTC allergy medications. Smoking tobacco did dull my reactions to airborne allergens.

Reduced my use of asthma medications

Started on 12mg, now on 0.3mg

Hardly use my Inhaler anymore at all!

Don’t use my inhaler or nebulizers anymore

I don’t get ill as much as I did when I was smoking colds, flu etc.

No more cough medicains

Decrease in cold medication

I have reduced my need for using an inhaler for asthma.

What?

Reduced allergy medication.

I feel better in general.

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Seems like long term risks & health implications are that we’re doing something right.

You anectdote, you.


 

What do Medical Experts say?

That’s here.


If you think we’re not screaming at the top of our much healthier lungs, you’re wrong.

happy



If you think we’re not paying attention, you may be mentioned here soon.



Added 4/06/16

Long Term Effects, MUST read:

Ecigs Health Effects R Cranfield Nov 24 2015.pdf


 

“Popcorn” lung came up again in the news.

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt

The WONDERFUL folks over at Vapers.Org.UK

released a Special Edition on 12/12/15:

I suggest a tall glass of liquid to hydrate due to the high salt content!

A Bucket Of Popcorn.

 



 

The FDA has deeming regulations in progress at the moment.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.


wonderful1


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


See what vapers said about their e-cigarette use here in the first survey.


You can also find me here on Blasting News.

 

Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

Dual Use. E-Cigarettes & Smoking. Shut UP Already.

headinsand


Dual Use. E-cigarettes & Smoking.

It seems there’s a pendulum swaying in the media for “experts” to ride.

No truth, mind you, they love speculation. What do they care, they’re gambling with YOUR lives, not theirs.

The love/hate affair with tobacco and the tax revenue it brings for public health, government and organizations is pretty well over.

They are studiously defending their own infidelity by trying to find things to convince you you’re doing something wrong. Why?

They’re trying to hide the clear and VERY public point of their irrelevance.  That’s why they want to regulate, restrict, tax & ban.

lenobreathe

Wait….. a minute…………………

It defeated the purpose of the bill when they weren’t classified as tobacco???

….. read that again…

They are a bunch of lying bastards.

Stings, doesn’t it?


Over 50 years of tobacco control hasn’t done what e-cigarettes are doing. They don’t like that kind of attention. They have agendas.

They’ll dote over children, then add in flavors. They talk about gateways. “Re-normalizing” smoking. They’ll spout off about the dangers of nicotine, they love to say “anecdotal” and and on occasion they like to toss in the “dual use” factor. For sport, I suppose. They have no integrity.


To have the “approved methods” and fail is fine-try harder – but don’t be a “dual user” with e-cigarettes!
“Experts” don’t want dual users?

TOO BAD.

So WHAT.

Shut UP already!


From the Hungarian Situation Report.

deathsquote hungarian situation


Some quit by default, some people just still like to SMOKE. Nothing wrong with that.

That’s their CHOICE.

They want to allude all the way to the tax collecting bank of your possible dual use as bad, that you may as well keep smoking.

(That keeps their revenue coming in.)


Dual use, in my view, is one of two things.

  1. You use both tobacco AND e-cigarettes because you like both and don’t want to stop your tobacco use.

  2. You haven’t found your “taste” and “strength” yet and until you do, will use both.

That’s it. There’s no “evil” of doing both. In fact, I encourage it for new vapers. Why?

It HELPS them!


You’re finding your way. Vaping is different from smoking.

Vaping CAN replace smoking – if you find your way with the right flavor, the right nicotine strength and the right style / generation of equipment you use, awesome.

If it just doesn’t work, you’re one of the approximately 2% who said that in the first survey.

It’s ok. The vaping community as a whole is not going to judge you.

Tobacco control experts may continue to scold you, though!


While you’re finding your way, please don’t listen to the “you’re a dual user, you may as well keep smoking” claims.

If you do continue to smoke, PLEASE keep in mind. You are NOT a failure.

I have believed all along the “approved” methods aren’t MEANT for you to succeed.

The Real Story Behind the Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

In the first survey, I asked about dual use of e-cigarettes & smoking.

The first had 12%. In the second, I asked the same question.

Guess what, 12%.

In two separate surveys.


Does that mean I’m right? Well –  I’m asking vapers.

Who CARES?

The “experts” care, I suppose. Reducing smoking in any way should be the goal – if that were their GOAL.

They want you to “quit or die”.

quitdie


Nicotine Policy has their say here:
New research shows electronic cigarettes better for quitting, than no aid; over the counter NRT worse than no aid
Here, via Medical Press:
 Switching from conventional to electronic cigarettes reduced toxicant exposure, even for dual users
Michael Siegel on Dual Use:
Important New Study Documents that Dual Use is Not a Negative Consequence of E-Cigarette Use, But a Positive One

Here, unedited – from the latest survey, is what vapers have said about dual use.
dual use graph

The only time I dual use is because of rare severe emotional distress. Planning to get some NET liquid to see if it helps.


To me dual use is what I did in the first months of vaping. Now if I buy any cigarettes they are smoked till gone then I vape the rest of the time. I do not vape and smoke in the same day anymore – unless I run out of the cigarettes in the middle of a day.


I don’t consider an occasional slip dual use. It’s a continual fight.


I’m free!


quit smoking marlboro 3 weeks ago today. NO desire to go back


Day 1, I’m still shocked, every other NRT was an absolute failure.


Smoking one cigarette a month hardly makes me a dual user so I go with no, I don’t use tobacco products anymore.


I occasionally light up a traditional cigarette, to remind myself what it tastes like. This happens very rarely though. I also enjoy the taste of a nice vanilla cigar.


Within the past year I have smoked a total of 3 cigarettes. All of those occasions I forgot my e-cigarette home or ran out of batteries.


I have been smoke free for 1 year and 24 days.


During my time vaping I have used snus couple of times from friends but I don’t actually buy it myself or use it in major amounts, just occasionally.


I began by using vapor to replace every fifth cigarette. When that was comfortable, I replaced every fourth, and so on. After three weeks, I smoked my last tobacco cigarette and have been tobacco-free for 5.5 months and counting… even though I live with a pack-a-day smoker (he courteously smokes outside)


On occasions my liquids may run out, and i had not ordered more. At times like these i might smoke a day or two.


My dual using has mostly to do with the taste of e-cigs after eating. They taste like shit after you’ve eaten greasy food. I often have a morning cig too, since it just hits with all it’s chemicals the way ecig doesn’t. These two are my daily two “regular” cigarettes tho, everything else is covered by ecig and they do a much tastier job of it too.


sometimes when drunk


the first four days of vaping I was a dual user, at this point in time I never had a pack of cigarettes last four days I smoked two packs a day


I have friends who like to use a hookah device with flavored tobacco shisha, I use that occasionally but it isn’t even a once a month basis.


I still use snus


6 cigs in 2 years says I’ve stopped completely. That’s my answer and I’m sticking to it.



i think the other chemicals in tobacco have me in chains


Been 3 years clean and have never gone back to cigarettes


E-cigarettes helped me stopped smoking regular cigarettes all together!


I smell cigarettes now and get digusted by the smell i dont know how i ever smoked before


I now find smoking disgusting and hate the smell of it.


i vape a juice with sweet flavor, no tobacco and zero nicotine. the device is a metal box with a vapor tank, this is not smoking or a e cig.


I do not want anything to do with tobacco companies !


I know I wouldn’t have been able to quit without the use of my personal vaporizers


Again, the ecig along with Chantix did the trick for me!


Ever since making the switch to using e-cigs exclusively, I no longer have cravings of any kind for any tobacco products


I smoke when I go out drinking as it feels more social and I’m not worried about breaking or losing my mod


I can happily cope without cigarettes. And I would never touch a cig sober but sometimes my battery dies on a night out (because I stupidly forget to check how much charge is in it) and I’ll turn to smoking.


As I have said I do have the odd cigarette, but because I think ecigs are so amazing I know that in the not to distant future that cigarettes will finally at long last be a thing of the past


I have not had tobacco in over a week. I think I can finally make the switch to e-cigs


I have friends that still smoke, occasionally, when we get together, one will smell good so I will bum one from them. I’ll smoke about half, put it out, and wonder how I ever used those nasty things 16 + years.


As a matter of fact, my wife took a blood test to prove to our insurance company that she doesn’t smoke anmymore and PASSED!


I cannot stand the taste of tobacco based/flavoured eliquid, cannot stand the smell of tobacco smoke.




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Here is what they said on the 1st survey about dual use


E-cigarette Research is HERE.

MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.


 Medical Professionals at MOVE are HERE.


Always a work in progress-

please visit my website here.

More to come!

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin.

Nicotine Addiction. Smoking, E-Cigarettes & You.

slavetonicotine


Nicotine. The integral part of the addiction to smoking. You must have it. It’s determined that your addiction to nicotine is just as hard to break as heroin by experts worldwide. That’s pretty powerful.

You’re an addict. You just can’t seem to get the monkey off your back. You’ve become accustomed to a certain level of this  substance, you can’t function without it.

You’ll continue your quest any way you can, up to and including smoking beyond health issues. Shame on you.

This tactic tobacco control & public health uses saying “nicotine is addictive” has a term called “proof by assertion.” Wikipedia’s definition of proof by assertion is “an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly re-stated regardless of contradiction.”

Spoiler alert: tobacco is addictive. Nicotine, without additives, has never proven to be addictive on its own, specifically with non-smokers or never-smokers. These assertive claims need to be addressed properly.


You’re not trying hard enough! You’re weak!  You don’t have it in you!

Take a walk. Fly a kite. Do something useful.

TRY AGAIN.

Use these “APPROVED METHODS

It CAN’T be what the FDA determines to be the “other chemicals and additives” (or what they consider the “Established List” in cigarettes!)

Noooo….. not those!

It’s GOT to be THE NICOTINE!

That’s what you’ve been LED to believe.

I should have titled this blog:

Nicotine Addiction. Smoking, E-Cigarettes & Other Lies.


Statement from specialists in nicotine science and public health policy

Not so fast, experts. You’re incorrect.

If you believe I’m wrong, PLEASE link your studies showing nicotine without tobacco/MAOI’s – below in the comment section.

I look forward to them and I “approve” EVERY comment on this blog.


Nicotine. Part of the propaganda that governments, health, tobacco control organizations, doctors & other “experts” are accustomed to spewing. They must speak it in order for you to believe it.

They’ve determined – in their infinite wisdom, that nicotine is the only reason you keep smoking.

Nicotine is not addictive


Added 4/30/16:

This:

nicotinecontrived

is from THIS:

If the data contradict the theory, throw out the data:

Nicotine addiction in the 2010 report of the Surgeon General


THIS one is interesting:

nicotinewar.JPG

From This:  Big Drugs Nicotine War


Updated 8/26/16

Via Chris Price: Is there a maximum limit to nicotine tolerance?


They’ve CONVINCED themselves into convincing you. They’ve become accustomed to the myth, and their quest to keep that myth alive any way they can, up to and including your demise. They will guilt trip you into believing this myth.

Really.

More EVIL and condescending shame on you here, you – you —- smoker you.


Added 3/18/17

Created false nicotine theory
to manipulate smokers
into thinking they are addicted

Surgeon General's report 1988,

The two other anti-tobacco experts, Neal Benowitz and Jack Henningfield were the jointly responsible scientific editors of the 639-page official Surgeon General’s Report: “Nicotine Addiction” in 1988.

According to the court documents the two experts both had solid economic cooperation on smoking cessation products with many pharmaceutical companies since the 1980s – Neal Benowitz as a professional consultant for several pharmaceutical companies that produce smoking cessation products, while Jack Henningfield earned most of his income from his own business companies which have had long-standing partnerships with Glaxo and Pfizer.

That is here:

Anti-smoking experts paid by Big Pharma

 


*Update 12/6/15

Does Nicotine Cause Vasoconstriction?

nicotinevasoconstriction


Is Nicotine Addictive?

*Update 3/17/16:

According to this 2014 Discovery Magazine article is “not the great satan”:

Nicotine, The Wonder Drug?

*added 3/17/16:

*The myth of nicotine addiction

*A letter from Professor Molimard to HSA

*Is Everything We’ve Been Told About Nicotine Wrong?


4/09/16:

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Via:

Monoamine Oxidase Inhibition Dramatically Increases the Motivation to Self-Administer Nicotine in Rats

http://m.jneurosci.org/content/25/38/8593.full


Added 4/17/16:

Role of dopamine in the behavioural actions of nicotine related to addiction.


Updated 4/18/16

28 Proven Health Benefits of Nicotine (and 4 potential risks)


 **Added 4/27/16:

“Clinically, very few users
of NRT become dependent on it”…. page 53.
From the Royal College of Physicians: (PDF Dropbox)

So, arm yourself with the answer to IS Nicotine Addictive? –  and answer this question….

what do they ever mean “nicotine is addictive”? Where do they get that from?

It’s NOT.

nicotinebiebart


Added 9/13/16:

Belief about nicotine content in cigarettes can curb cravings

Specifically, with non-tobacco users and the patch:

nicotine addiction patch

More on that statement:

Study explores nicotine patch to treat memory loss

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3466669/


Well – what does addict you to smoking?

You could go- here for additives in cigarettes

and here for the alleged nicotine causes cancer statement….

and here where rats aren’t even interested when coerced…..

I could go on.

I’ll let you read what Paul says about the Evils of Nick O’Teen!


The CDC said

9 million people are now using e-cigarettes

in the United States. GOOD.

I think their estimate is low – but it’s a nice round figure with some punch.

Sounds wonderful.

NINE MILLION NON SMOKERS!

regulaterestricttaxbanmath

You don’t think their ponzi scheme would last forever did you?

You thought those MSA funds would last forever?

Wouldn’t you think they’d want you off TOBACCO instead of NICOTINE?



The FDA themselves say:

nicotineaddiction

~But that’s for the approved “magical” nicotine~


The FDA has deeming regulations.

Go here and do something about that.

Then go here as well.



So what have e-cigarette users said already about nicotine use?

Alan describes it here with some interesting points:

Evolving Nicotine & Usage.


What about relapses, Alan?

Relapse Prevention


Added 10/09/16

via Fergus Mason & Black Note:

Attention VENDORS:

Where has all the nicotine gone?


How does Chris Price of ecigarette-politics  answer the following question?

Why do some vapers use strengths greater than 20mg?


Randy did a survey about this very subject here in full.

In PDF format: Nicotine And Flavor Preferences Survey Results

In Excel format: Nicotine And Flacor Preferences Survey Results


But… what if I smoke AND use an e-cigarette?

Dual Use is covered here!


“Were you worried about your nicotine level/intake specifically with your e-cigarette use?

19Here’s just the last 50 comments left, unedited, from that question.


I use nicotine for the throath hit. I have accidentially tried 0mg (because i used a 100W tank and nic just isnt fun in those). I tried it for a few months and i didn’t have any redraw effects. the only thing i missed was the troathfeel so i went back to that amount that gives me the best feel.
Thursday, Oct 8th 5:13PM


I started at 24 mg and then it started feeling “too much” so I went to 18 mg and stayed there for about 2 years. I dropped to 12 mg because I thought I should drop down and it was a hard adjustment but I made it through okay. Now if I use a sub ohm tank I will vape 6 mg, but my all day vape is 12 mg. It works for me and that’s where I’m staying.
Thursday, Oct 8th 11:23AM


i am aiming for 0 nicotine but haven’t managed it yet but im close at 6mg
Thursday, Oct 1st 9:22PM


Nicotine on its own is only slightly addictive, A Smokers addiction is amplified due to the 4000+ chemicals in the Cigarettes. Nicotine has many Medicinal properties and is in most Fruit and Vegetables particularly of the Nightshade family.

Tuesday, Sep 29th 6:40PM


Different mg but a lot more juice. Same nicotine since I started.
Sunday, Sep 27th 4:22PM


I did drop my nicotine levels to 3 mg. It is not out of concern, because I did many days of research on nicotine and I don’t feel it is harmful (in moderation) and I certainly realize it was NOT what I was addicted to when smoking cigarettes. I can go without vaping and have 0 cravings when I don’t have it. I reduced my levels though, from simply wanting to make sure I’m not addicted and chained to it.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 11:29AM


I don’t plan to drop below 6. I find it helpful for weight control and drinking more water and many other good things.
Wednesday, Sep 23rd 8:02AM


Started at 12 am now at 3 and will eventually be at zero
Sunday, Sep 20th 11:04AM


I use 0 in the evening. The nicotine keeps me awake at night. Never noticed that with cigarettes
Sunday, Sep 20th 11:07AM


Nicotine is not our enemy, it’s the tar and the thousand of chemicals they put in the tobacco that harms us. New studies shows that nicotine is more like caffeine
Monday, Sep 14th 2:54AM


Nicotine has benefits in cohesive brain activity (proven) Research being done for Alzheimers and many other (CNS) brain disorders
Sunday, Sep 13th 3:58PM


started at 11-12 mg and have recently switched to 6mg.
Friday, Sep 11th 2:03PM


I don’t think nicotine is particularly harmful in itself, in moderation – at least, no more so than caffeine – but have played with reducing and it has been fairly easy so far. I started at 9 on ego device, dropped to 3 on a mod/dripper, went to 2, to 1, too little, currently at 1.5mg/mL
Friday, Aug 28th 8:26AM


Lower levels of nicotine have been proven to be beneficial to the body, knowing this I am not bothered by my level of intake as it is not an alarming level.
The smoke itself as well as all the other chemicals in cigarettes are the issue.
Sunday, Aug 16th 3:11AM


I have dropped my nicotine levels gradually, but that is purely a decision based on COST (mostly of international postage)! I have no fear that nicotine is bad for me!
Saturday, Aug 15th 7:13AM


I’m not worried about niuc – but I have dropped my levels down. I see no reason to hurry it and am not concerned if I continue with nic forever.
Saturday, Aug 15th 7:13AM


Nic level reduction is automatic, eventually your body tells you it’s time to drop.
Saturday, Aug 8th 7:53AM


If i lower my nic level i will vape more or when i increase the nic level i will vape less. Depending on the time of day or my mood. The same as with smoking. My body will tell me how much i need or want.
Thursday, Aug 6th 10:52AM


Have learned of benefits of nicotine to those of various mental health problems. Since I’m concerned with the decline of the elderly’s mental acuity, I will continue to vape with nicotine.
Thursday, Aug 6th 2:59AM


Not worried about Nicotine, it’s harm profile is about the same as caffeine’s – and I ain’t quitting my coffee either 😛
Tuesday, Aug 4th 7:15AM


I started at 24Mg and am now down to 3-6Mg (juice dependent). I do use an RBA mod though, so my vapour intake is higher.
Tuesday, Aug 4th 3:59AM


Almost on zero but occasionally still use nicotine
Monday, Aug 3rd 4:43PM


I lowered my nicotine to get away from vaping but realized it is a mental addiction and not a physical addiction for me. I was at 0mg nic. for 3 months and quit vaping. once I stopped I started gaining weight from over eating so I went back to vaping. I would rather inhale a caffeine style drug than be obese. which carries it’s own health concerns.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:43PM


So far I’m fine with not worrying myself over nicotine intake.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 8:00PM


I see the risk of nicotine as negligible especially compared with smoking.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 12:14PM


My research showed that nicotine delivered without smoke is not hazardous. Nicotine has beneficial effects.
Sunday, Aug 2nd 11:11AM


Nicotine has many health benefits. I don’t feel a particular need to drop it further at this point.
Saturday, Aug 1st 7:59PM


Even though I am inhaling way more nicotine now than when I smoked, I’m not concerned about it. Nicotine is not that harmful of a substance, and the absorbtion through e-cig vapor is much smaller than through smoke. This means that i am actually getting a lot less nicotine than smokers get. Still I’m doing fine, and I don’t need more nicotine. I use 5 mg/ml e-juice about 10 ml per day, which makes 50 mg of nicotine per day.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:25PM


I do not want to quit nicotine completely, unless it’s determined to NOT help fight off Alzheimer’s.
Saturday, Aug 1st 6:42PM


I’m glad I’ve reduced from 24mg to 10mg. If I stay at 10mg forever I’m OK with that. If I eventually go lower I’m OK with that too. I did try dropping to 5mg and found myself chain vaping so went back up to 10mg.
Saturday, Aug 1st 5:18PM


I never intended to reduce my nicotine intake, but I found that I required less and less over the time to get the same level of satisfaction.
Saturday, Aug 1st 5:08AM


Not really worried about the Nicotine that i inhale but i drop my nicotine levels out of taste and feel reasons (getting better flavor without the “burn” feel) I hope it is understandable what i wanted to tell (English is not my Native Tongue)
Wednesday, Jul 29th 9:50AM


Im just looking for a bit of throat hit!
Tuesday, Jul 28th 3:02PM


I use very minimal amounts to the point where I doubt there is any more risk than inhaling the polluted air outside.
Monday, Jul 27th 3:30AM


I am gradually coming off cigarettes. I’ve gone from 20 a day down to two. I will eventually go onto only e-cigs and cut down my nicotine with that
Sunday, Jul 26th 4:48PM


I wanted to reduce my nicotine level, but not to 0.
Sunday, Jul 26th 3:35AM


I have dropped down a lot, but I do not think I want to completely remove the nicotine because of the flavor and way it makes the ejuice better tasting in my opinion. And really a small amount of nicotine is not harmful,what is harmful is all of the carcinogens and chemicals in cigarettes!
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:24PM


I only dropped because the throat hit started bothering me and the people in the vape store said to lower nicotine. I started at 24, and dropped to 6 over time
Saturday, Jul 25th 11:10PM


I did drop my nicotine levels gradually and I am now at “3 to 6”.
I sometimes use “zero” (or just straight VG – no flavor) and will end up at zero across the board… but there’s no timetable.
Saturday, Jul 25th 10:50PM


I’m reducing my nicotine because
Nicotine may not always be easy to purchase and I’d like to get used to being without before that happens.
Saturday, Jul 25th 8:50PM


I lowered my nicotine level simply out of comfort. Once a level began burning my throat too badly, I moved to the next lower level. I’ve been at 6mg for over 2 years and feel no need to lower it to zero.
Saturday, Jul 25th 8:46PM


Not concerned about nicotine, but the flavor and the experience is much better on a lower amount.
Saturday, Jul 25th 9:07AM


I see no real harm in having nicotine. It’s not a carcinogen
Thursday, Jul 23rd 4:01PM


if i didn’t have my vaping anymore i would start smoking again i know i would
Wednesday, Jul 22nd 8:47AM


after 50 years of smoking i have accepted the fact that nicotine will always be in my life. By removing the tar and other gunk with vaping, I m doing much better. My medical exams show the difference
Monday, Jul 20th 11:02AM


My goal is not to reduce my nicotine level, but to reduce vaping to only some circumstances, or possibly only some days of the week. I can’t seem to reach that goal, and this is a concern.
Monday, Jul 20th 10:17AM


I use nicotine for the throat sensation it offers. equally at home vaping 0mg
Monday, Jul 20th 3:19AM


A little nicotine does harm or kill.
Sunday, Jul 19th 1:05PM


Not at all, but I could definitely feel the nicotine in the higher nic juices.
Saturday, Jul 18th 11:10PM


snicotine

Some of you above mentioned throat hit.

If you’re trying e-cigarettes to stop or reduce smoking, the most effective way to do so are using a wide variety of flavors you already like, and the nicotine strength is paramount in your success.

You probably never thought about it while smoking, but think of this – if you used a full flavor, the “lights” just didn’t cut it for you, right?

If you used a “light” cigarette, the “full flavor” was too strong.

There you go.


The nicotine level mimics the throat hit.

You may stop smoking by accident.

This article explains it very well.

Throat Hit.

***Added 5/11/16:

PDF Download:

Satisfactory throat-hit(1)


***Added 6/7/16:

Satisfactory throat-hit is needed to switch from tobacco to e-cigarettes: a lesson from an e-liquid blind test

Added 6/12/16:

A Good Side To Nicotine


Via Bernd Mayer:

“Nicotine may be addictive by causing release of dopamine in the nucleus accumbens, a component of the reward center of the brain that is essentially involved in reinforcing effects which stimulate drug-taking behavior. However, this issue is controversial due to frequent confusion of (well established) tobacco dependence with nicotine dependence.”

That’s here in Nicotine – the basics.

The next time you see or hear “nicotine is dangerous”, they’re technically correct. It can be.

The dose makes the poison.

Also via Bernd Mayer:

How much nicotine kills a human?


Now, updated 3/13/16:

The Royal Society For Public Health says:

Nicotine “no more harmful to health than caffeine”


A Psychiatrist asks: Can Nicotine Be Good for You?


Update added 6/03/16:

Nicotine is not a demon, vaping is much less harmful than smoking

Someone thinks there should be a “nicotine vaccine“.


Added 6/25/16:

CASAA’s Dr. Brian Carter’s presentation at the Global Forum on Nicotine 2016.


Added 6/25/16:

Do smokers self-administer pure nicotine? A review of the evidence.

A critique of nicotine addiction.


Added 7/06/16:

Public Health England released this joint statement on e-cigarettes by Public Health England and other UK public health organisations HERE

The World Health Organization (W.H.O.) decides IDIOTICALLY and WRONGLY that nicotine is the problem here:


Added 7/17/16:

Endovasc develops slow release nicotine liposome for angiogenesis

Growing new blood vessels around blocked arteries


Added 7/27/16:

What medical ‘experts’ hide: Nicotine does NOT cause cancer


Added 8/1/16:

From 2013.

On August 8th, 2016…employers can disqualify you for employment, health care can “deem” you a tobacco user for “using” nicotine.

Nicotine is not valid proof of smoking.


9/15/16:

How do consumers perceive differences in risk across nicotine products?

A review of relative risk perceptions across smokeless tobacco, e-cigarettes, nicotine replacement therapy and combustible cigarettes.


Added 10/16:

It has the potential to lead to one of the greatest public health breakthroughs in human history by fundamentally changing the forecast of a billion cigarette-caused deaths this century.”

Added 10/20/16
From Bolton Smokers Club:

Added 10/23/16

Via my well respected friend, Norbert Zillatron:

“It can’t be the nicotine. It must be some other dependency.”

Diminishing Dependency

“This is the simple formula often used to explain the psychological part of the multifactorial tobacco dependence and why vaping works where NRTs often fail.”

Haptic Habit

See what vapers said about their e-cigarette use here in the first survey.


Added 10/24/16

Via Fontem Adventures

E-cigarettes and nicotine – What you need to know

* Fontem Ventures is a subsidiary of tobacco company Imperial Tobacco


Added 10/28/16

Obsolete tobacco control themes can be hazardous to public health: the need for updating views on absolute product risks and harm reduction


Added 11/12/16

It’s IN your DIET. It’s in EVERYONE’S diet:

Niacin Origins


Added 12/06/16

From Eureka Alert, R&D at British American Tobacco:

E-cigarettes effectively deliver nicotine.


Added 12/08/16 from Planet of the Vapes:

Nicotine Addiction


Added 12/12/16

Nice collection of nightshade (nicotine) Veggies & Fruits:

List of Nightshade Veggies and Fruits


Added 12/13/2016:

Glantz himself –


ADDED 12/15/16

The SNAP trial: a randomised placebo-controlled trial of nicotine replacement therapy in pregnancy


From Daniel Hall:

Your Child Is A Nicotine Addict And It’s All Your Fault


Added 12/23/16:

(Thanks, Alan!)

Knowledge and **Perceptions about Nicotine, Nicotine Replacement Therapies and Electronic Cigarettes among Healthcare Professionals in Greece

Nicotine most harmful cigarette ingredient, GPs think

Health professionals in Flanders perceive the potential health risks of vaping as lower than those of smoking but do not recommend using e-cigarettes to their smoking patients

Using a videotaped objective structured clinical examination to assess Knowledge In Smoking cessation amongst medical Students (the K.I.S.S. Study)


Added 12/24/2016

List Of Nicotine Articles / Chris Price (ecigarette-politics.com)

and

My friend Alan Beard:

Extracting from ‘Nicotine’ Moments


Added 12/26/2016

It’s IN YOUR FOOD:

From the New England Journal of Medicine (1993)

The Nicotine Content of Common Vegetables

01/31/17

6 Common Food with Nicotine Content


Added 12/26/2016

Why We Should Separate Nicotine From Tobacco


Added 12/28/2016

Chronic nicotine treatment decreases LPS signaling through NF-κB and TLR-4 modulation in the hippocampus.

Added 01/08/17

Nootropic Nicotine Addiction Non-existent?


Added 01/09/2017:

Why Is Smoking Addictive? It’s Probably Not Just Nicotine, Despite What We’ve Been Told For Years


Added 01/09/2017

If an e-cigarette were used as a MEDICAL device it seems there’s potential. Suddenly:

Assessment of new-generation high-power electronic nicotine delivery system as thermal aerosol generation device for inhaled bronchodilators.


Added 01/11/17

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28070620


One of my own articles:

Nicotine is not addictive, no conclusive evidence found


From my blog: They want you to keep smoking, but lower the nicotine.

What a startling idiotic idea!

Keep smoking, we’ll just help you lower your nicotine.

Added 12/26/2016

State officials addicted to nicotine taxes


5 Year Old is Seizure Free with Nicotine Patch:


Truth About Vaping – Episode 2 “The Nicotine Misconception”


ANOTHER from Chris Price

The Excrement of Science

Added 01/12/17

“Anti-tobacco messages should aim to lower hope associated with tobacco products but increase hope for cessation or life without tobacco.”

That’s here: Do Emotions Spark Interest in Alternative Tobacco Products?



Added 01/16/17

Can nicotine protect the aging brain?


ADDED 01/18/17

THIS

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is from THIS:

Nicotine delivery to users from cigarettes and from different types of e-cigarettes


Added 01/26/17

Nicotine reverses hypofrontality in animal models of addiction and schizophrenia


Added 01/31/17

Young or adult users of multiple tobacco/nicotine products urgently need to be informed of meaningful differences in product risks


Added 02/09/17

Effect of Selective Inhibition of Reactivated Nicotine-Associated Memories With Propranolol on Nicotine Craving


Added 02/16/17

The Importance of Conditioned Stimuli in Cigarette and E-Cigarette Craving Reduction by E-Cigarettes


Added 03/12/17

So with all those above, I’ve found a few that show “addiction”…. could may might.

This one,  with my favorite word “can” and a whopping 18 people.

Nicotine reinforcement in never-smokers.

“One”

Read the title again before you click it….

Three Decades of High-Dose Nicotine Gum Dependence Treated With Nicotine Patches.

Finally, a survey showing less than once percent.

Addiction to the nicotine gum in never smokers

Nicotine self-administration


Added 3/14/17

“There is very little to no evidence for the abuse of nicotine when not delivered in a tobacco vehicle.”

Dependence on tobacco and nicotine




MORE e-cigarette research is also HERE.

If you are a Professional  go HERE.



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