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Vaping: Let’s Get This Out Of The Way

James Jarvis, President of the Ohio Vapor Trade Association

VAPING: “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019”.

In a recent post, James Jarvis discussed common myths about vaping, stating “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019.”

Not only is James Jarvis is President of Ohio Vapor Trade Association (OHVTA), he’s also a consumer. I’ve been to Columbus a couple times to see him, and I’ll describe James simply as good people. He cares about smokers having proper information and he cares about the industry.

To the point, a post on his Facebook page got me to thinking… if some vapers genuinely don’t know or are confused about information, how can the public know?

Let’s change that. Now. Let’s get this out of the way: Educators and legislators must learn.


On Public Record.

With the battle preconceived and one-sided (predetermined in some instances) for power and funding, authorities having jurisdiction (AHJ) of their respective township, town, city, and state must be made aware of all sides of this issue in their communities.

If an opportunity arises for three minutes at a podium, this can be read, memorized – as is – or modified, printed to dispel myths about vaping products and nicotine.

Politely – and directly engaging each concern immediately in front of decision-makers, with proper sources for authorities given the task of deciding the fate of (your) regulations, restrictions, taxes, and bans shows a proactive approach to their concerns no matter what the opposition.

I saw his list and was inspired. I have provided his points about vaping (numbered) from his post and link(s) to each point made.


James said: “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019″… ” I agree.



Let’s get this out of the way

1. Popcorn Lung is not caused from vapor products

From Dr Farsalinos, Brad Rodu, Dr. Siegel and more, a collection of evidence to the contrary:

A Bucket Full of Popcorn


2. E-Liquid does not contain tobacco

(some liquids do contain nicotine which is extracted from the tobacco plant. It can also be synthetic)

Are E-Cigarettes Tobacco Products?

Schrodinger’s Nicotine: Not Derived From Tobacco

American Cancer Society on vaping: Nicotine is not tobacco


3. Nicotine is classified by the FDA just like caffeine

53% of medical professionals say it’s like caffeine, and only 4 percent said it was “dangerous”.

Medical Professionals Speak Out on E-Cigarettes.

Also: Difference Between Caffeine and Nicotine

FDA says How Much Caffeine is Too Much?

Ironic, the FDA has removed the link stating

The changes being recommended by FDA include a removal of the warning that consumers should not use an NRT product if they are still smoking, chewing tobacco, using snuff or any other product that contains nicotine—including another NRT.”

is gone. I did find the statement here:

Here are screen shots of the original statements

The Royal Society for Public Health DOES say “nicotine is no more harmful than caffeine”, here.


4. Tomato, Eggplant, and all nightshade veggies contain nicotine

“Nicotine is an alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants (Solanaceae), predominantly in tobacco, and in lower quantities in tomato, potato, eggplant (aubergine), and green pepper. Nicotine alkaloids are also found in the leaves of the coca plant.”

Nicotine is also found in tea.

Nicotine

The nicotine contents of vegetables


Let’s get this out of the way

5. Nicotine DOES NOT cause cancer.

What medical ‘experts’ hide: Nicotine does NOT cause cancer

Nicotine has no association with cancer. There is no supportable evidence to link nicotine with cancer, and a vast amount of evidence (and irrefutable facts) that there is no such link.

Nicotine And Cancer – Is There Any Link?


6. Vape Shops DO NOT want youth to use vapor products, which is why we ID and refuse service

“all vape shops inspected were found to be in compliance”


7. The nicotine used in patches, gums and lozenges is the same as whats used in vapor….

( why is vapor more dangerous???)

It’s the same nicotine.

“Nicotine can also be purchased in many other forms including patches, chewing gum, and liquid extract formula.” That’s here.


8. Vapor is at least 95% – 99% safer than combustible tobacco

According to the Royal College of Physicians and Public Health England:

Nicotine without smoke: Tobacco harm reduction


9. Vapor is NOT a gateway to tobacco.

1.7 Million High Schoolers Vaped in 2016, As Both Vaping and Smoking Declined

Smoking among teens is at their lowest ever, showing 7.60% “monthly use”, 3.6% “daily use“.


10. Vapor is the consumer created solution to the tobacco problem.

Clive Bates take this subject on directly:

Innovation for Consumers: E-cigarettes and novel tobacco products – Part of the problem or part of the solution?


11. While youth use of the product Juul has risen, It is far from epidemic proportions. What is a youth epidemic you ask? Alcohol, Opioids and other drugs.

Marijuana = 22.20% “past month”

Illicit Drugs = 24.00% “past month”.

Vaping (any) = 26.70% “past month”

Alcohol = 30.20% “past month”

Monitoring the Future



James closes with his post adding “I hope this helps you understand what Vapor is and is not…. any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.”

In addition to the statements James made above, I’ve added more points commonly brought forth and used by jurisdictions when trying to regulate, restrict, tax and ban businesses below.



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Let’s get this out of the way

There’s more.

12. Tobacco 21

A movement in the United States is raising the age of sale of tobacco to 21. While valiant in effort, it both restricts 18-year-old adults from products (e-cigs, snus, etc.) that can help them quit smoking and shows little progress to reduce smoking rates.

The Consumer Advocates for Smoke Free Alternatives Association (CASAA) released this statement about “Tobacco 21” laws:

CASAA Tobacco 21 policy statement: “Including low-risk alternatives in T21 laws is unwise, misleading”

There’s lack of enforcement

Consumer group THR4Life has this Tobacco 21 Tool Kit

As Senator Steve Linthicum (R – Oregon) puts it,

 “freedom from responsibility” will enable more state intervention for many years to come.

The Senator’s Op-Ed is here:

Smoking age law simply more nanny state

Tobacco 21 laws enacted are showing smoking increases with laws that includ vapor products.

Electronic Cigarette Age Restrictions May Drive Teens to Traditional Cigarettes

Here, a study showed “Increasing the minimum legal purchase age  (MLPA) to 21 years in NYC did not accelerate reductions in youth tobacco use any more rapidly than declines observed in comparison sites.”

Impact of New York City’s 2014 Increased Minimum Legal Purchase Age on Youth Tobacco Use.

From Robert Morgan:

Harm Reduction Drives Younger Vapers, Not Flavors

Brad Rodu discusses the Synar Amendment:

“Beginning in 1997, Washington required states to report underage sales via the Synar Program (here).  The latest Synar data shows that 9.6% of retailers were noncompliant in 2013.  The FDA also conducts compliance checks of tobacco retailers.  In 2016, the FDA reported a noncompliance rate of 11% (here).  The FDA should focus on this far more dangerous illegal cigarette sales issue, rather than obsessing over e-cigarettes. “

FDA Aims at Wrong Target in Effort to Protect Teens

Also, Brian Fotjik has this to say:

Legislation To Raise Tobacco (And E-Cigarette) Age Is Unnecessary, Risky Public Health Implications of Raising the Minimum Age of Legal Access to Tobacco Products


13. Withholding information:

Being restricted by law (I’m not as a consumer) is not an easy task for shops to contend with. Shops cannot say e-cigarettes could help ‘quit smoking’, or they’re safer than…

“We argue that omitting key health relevant information for current or prospective consumers represents a kind of quarantine of health-relevant information”

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines


Let’s get this out of the way

14. Nicotine “addiction”

Ignored since 2011, Hanan Frenk and Reuven Dar submitted this to the Harm Reduction Journal:

“We show that the nicotine addiction model presented in this chapter, which closely resembles its 22 years old predecessor, could only be sustained by systematically ignoring all contradictory evidence.”

If the data contradict the theory, throw out the data: Nicotine addiction in the 2010 report of the Surgeon General

This shows “The effects of nicotine on the brain are similar to those of sugar, salt, exercise, and other harmless substances and events. “There are so many findings that conflict so starkly with the view that nicotine is addictive that it increasingly appears that adhering to the nicotine addiction thesis is only defensible on extra-scientific grounds.”

Nicotine as an Addictive Substance: A Critical Examination of the Basic Concepts and Empirical Evidence

Also: IS Nicotine Addictive?

Also: A comparison of the abuse liability and dependence potential of nicotine patch, gum, spray, and inhaler.

Also: Are there other chemicals that cause addiction in tobacco?
MAIO’s?

(They modified their link to not show this)

This is what the link shows now:


15. HIGHER nicotine levels are SAFE.

A new study shows higher nicotine levels are safe – “nicotine on its own, outside of tobacco products, has limited addictive potential, and that higher doses are safe and well tolerated

Here’s the link:

Trying to quit smoking? New research suggests higher levels of nicotine may help



Let’s get this out of the way

16. Second-hand vapor

From the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health :

“We evaluated concerns about exposure to vaping-related chemicals in a vape shop. Exposure to flavoring chemicals (diacetyl, 2,3-pentanedione, acetaldehyde), formaldehyde, nicotine, and propylene glycol were all below occupational exposure limits.”

That is here:

Evaluation of Chemical Exposures at a Vape Shop


17. Anti -Freeze

It is not anti-freeze. Simply absurd. As of the publishing of this post, the well respected American Academy of Pediatrics is still eluding to ‘anti-freeze’ as an ingredient on their ‘quick facts’ section here.

Propylene Glycol in E-Cigarettes – Is PG Dangerous to Inhale?

18. Battery safety

Battery Safety: E-cigarettes


Battery safety continued

If you’re in the industry: Responsibility.

James Jarvis joins Shane Thompson of Battery Solutions in Miami, Florida at the Vapevent – to explain battery safety.


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Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

Vaping In The News – September 23rd, 2017

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SCREAM TEST / Scream Test Update ~ DANA Statement: Australia ~ THR4Life ~ FDA Warnings ~ Air Quality ~ Corruption ~ Show Me The Money ~ Gonzo Gives ~ Snork ~ Tobacco Taxes ~ Tobacco Experts ~ Regulator Watch ~ Foundation For A Smoke-Free World


 

Experts in tobacco CONtrol are nervous and well aware of their demise as they squealed like stuck pigs after the announcement of Foundation for a Smoke-Free World and Philip Morris’s 1 Billion dollar commitment to the same…

Australia finds nurses on board with vaping… An introduction to the Board Members of THR4life… The FDA warnings are useless…. Gonzo Gives…. Regulator Watch… Foundation For A Smoke-Free World…Taxes… and more.

This is Vaping In The News for the week ending September 23rd, 2017


😱 Scream Test

This reads like a desperate eulogy written by well seasoned & nearly extinct tobacco CONtrol freaks.

To shed light upon on themselves and their continued failure as “experts” is sadly amusing. I encourage one of you to send these idiots some flowers. Tell them to try harder. They can do it.

(Thanks to the authors!)

A “Frank Statement” for the 21st Century?

Scream Test Update

I would be remiss, and this would not be complete without Dick Puddlecoat’s explanation:

Scream Test Update

(My take is further down.)


DANA Statement: Australia

Drug and Alcohol Nurses of Australasia Incorporated (DANA) has released a statment. I don’t agree with “every” single part, but finally, some common sense – shockingly from the land of disbelief and fairy tales of Chapman & Freeman, Australia.

DANA Position Statement on E-Cigarettes


THR4Life

I’d like to introduce you to the Board I am proudly a part of.

Tobacco Harm Reduction For Life


FDA Warnings

More useless notices that won’t be read by anyone.

“FDA failed to present any data — much less the substantial evidence required under the [Administrative Procedure Act]…”

FDA to study warnings for cigarette packaging


Air Quality

The Centers for Disease Control did a test. Huh. Jim McDonald delves into what they did, or didn’t find… and won’t talk about.

What did the CDC find when they tested vape shop air?


Corruption

No. Couldn’t be. Say it isn’t so.

Vrdolyak, associate collected $10 million in unauthorized tobacco fees, prosecutors say


Show Me The Money

Certainly there’s no conflict of interest here… CVS has committed $50 million dollars to get their way.

The American Cancer Society is now joined at the hip to help bully fund “tobacco-free” campuses and has “awarded” $20,000.00 to another campus to become nannies to adults.

Monetary grant encourages a tobacco free generation by The American Cancer Society


Gonzo Gives

What, you may ask, is Gonzo gives? Go ahead, ask. Meanwhile, I see frustration from many in the vaping community.

Then, I see this, and it inspires me.

GONZO GIVES FAQ


Snork

They called this one “Juice monsters” here.


Tobacco Taxes

Since National Tobacco Day, this has been coming… if you didn’t believe it, it’s ready to go – and if you’re new here, nicotine is considered tobacco.

Jim McDonald, again, covers this eloquently here:

Senate bill would tax vapes and cigarettes the same

Related:

congress.gov (Page 40)


Tobacco Control ‘Experts’ Fight AGAINST A Smoke-Free World

Please indulge me in a bit of shameless self-promotion. I’d like to take a moment to proudly introduce my first submission to the Daily Caller & Daily Vaper. I was humbled, surprised and honored when I was contacted to submit to them.

I was also relieved. Why? The consideration was immediate. With 20 million possible eyes, and no pop ups, I’m in.

Instead of preaching to the choir, I hope their estimated audience of 20 million people might see what this blog has been trying to say for (4+ years) so long.

My submission on the scream test from above:

Tobacco Control ‘Experts’ Fight AGAINST A Smoke-Free World


Foundation For A Smoke-Free World

This is what causes tobacco control to pull their hair out. I’m enjoying the show.

You can see the website here : Foundation For A Smoke-Free World


Regulator Watch

ANY attention to any attempt to STOP the Food and Drug Administration to cease and desist is attention. Some disagree, some are supportive.

One may agree or disagree in the tactics deployed by any industry or consumer group, but to have egos in the way of progress towards what should be little to no regulation of vaping products, (industry manufacturing standards, no sales tax other than normal sales tax), one with half a brain would give deeper consideration to any efforts being put forth rather than dismissing them.

My deepest thanks to Brent Stafford from Regulator Watch for continuing to educate me as a consumer in what seems like an endless regulatory carnival ride.

 

 




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Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

 

 

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