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Vaping: Let’s Get This Out Of The Way

James Jarvis, President of the Ohio Vapor Trade Association

VAPING: “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019”.

In a recent post, James Jarvis discussed common myths about vaping, stating “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019.”

Not only is James Jarvis is President of Ohio Vapor Trade Association (OHVTA), he’s also a consumer. I’ve been to Columbus a couple times to see him, and I’ll describe James simply as good people. He cares about smokers having proper information and he cares about the industry.

To the point, a post on his Facebook page got me to thinking… if some vapers genuinely don’t know or are confused about information, how can the public know?

Let’s change that. Now. Let’s get this out of the way: Educators and legislators must learn.


On Public Record.

With the battle preconceived and one-sided (predetermined in some instances) for power and funding, authorities having jurisdiction (AHJ) of their respective township, town, city, and state must be made aware of all sides of this issue in their communities.

If an opportunity arises for three minutes at a podium, this can be read, memorized – as is – or modified, printed to dispel myths about vaping products and nicotine.

Politely – and directly engaging each concern immediately in front of decision-makers, with proper sources for authorities given the task of deciding the fate of (your) regulations, restrictions, taxes, and bans shows a proactive approach to their concerns no matter what the opposition.

I saw his list and was inspired. I have provided his points about vaping (numbered) from his post and link(s) to each point made.


James said: “Let’s get this out of the way for 2019″… ” I agree.



Let’s get this out of the way

1. Popcorn Lung is not caused from vapor products

From Dr Farsalinos, Brad Rodu, Dr. Siegel and more, a collection of evidence to the contrary:

A Bucket Full of Popcorn


2. E-Liquid does not contain tobacco

(some liquids do contain nicotine which is extracted from the tobacco plant. It can also be synthetic)

Are E-Cigarettes Tobacco Products?

Schrodinger’s Nicotine: Not Derived From Tobacco

American Cancer Society on vaping: Nicotine is not tobacco


3. Nicotine is classified by the FDA just like caffeine

53% of medical professionals say it’s like caffeine, and only 4 percent said it was “dangerous”.

Medical Professionals Speak Out on E-Cigarettes.

Also: Difference Between Caffeine and Nicotine

FDA says How Much Caffeine is Too Much?

Ironic, the FDA has removed the link stating

The changes being recommended by FDA include a removal of the warning that consumers should not use an NRT product if they are still smoking, chewing tobacco, using snuff or any other product that contains nicotine—including another NRT.”

is gone. I did find the statement here:

Here are screen shots of the original statements

The Royal Society for Public Health DOES say “nicotine is no more harmful than caffeine”, here.


4. Tomato, Eggplant, and all nightshade veggies contain nicotine

“Nicotine is an alkaloid found in the nightshade family of plants (Solanaceae), predominantly in tobacco, and in lower quantities in tomato, potato, eggplant (aubergine), and green pepper. Nicotine alkaloids are also found in the leaves of the coca plant.”

Nicotine is also found in tea.

Nicotine

The nicotine contents of vegetables


Let’s get this out of the way

5. Nicotine DOES NOT cause cancer.

What medical ‘experts’ hide: Nicotine does NOT cause cancer

Nicotine has no association with cancer. There is no supportable evidence to link nicotine with cancer, and a vast amount of evidence (and irrefutable facts) that there is no such link.

Nicotine And Cancer – Is There Any Link?


6. Vape Shops DO NOT want youth to use vapor products, which is why we ID and refuse service

“all vape shops inspected were found to be in compliance”


7. The nicotine used in patches, gums and lozenges is the same as whats used in vapor….

( why is vapor more dangerous???)

It’s the same nicotine.

“Nicotine can also be purchased in many other forms including patches, chewing gum, and liquid extract formula.” That’s here.


8. Vapor is at least 95% – 99% safer than combustible tobacco

According to the Royal College of Physicians and Public Health England:

Nicotine without smoke: Tobacco harm reduction


9. Vapor is NOT a gateway to tobacco.

1.7 Million High Schoolers Vaped in 2016, As Both Vaping and Smoking Declined

Smoking among teens is at their lowest ever, showing 7.60% “monthly use”, 3.6% “daily use“.


10. Vapor is the consumer created solution to the tobacco problem.

Clive Bates take this subject on directly:

Innovation for Consumers: E-cigarettes and novel tobacco products – Part of the problem or part of the solution?


11. While youth use of the product Juul has risen, It is far from epidemic proportions. What is a youth epidemic you ask? Alcohol, Opioids and other drugs.

Marijuana = 22.20% “past month”

Illicit Drugs = 24.00% “past month”.

Vaping (any) = 26.70% “past month”

Alcohol = 30.20% “past month”

Monitoring the Future



James closes with his post adding “I hope this helps you understand what Vapor is and is not…. any other questions, please don’t hesitate to ask.”

In addition to the statements James made above, I’ve added more points commonly brought forth and used by jurisdictions when trying to regulate, restrict, tax and ban businesses below.



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Let’s get this out of the way

There’s more.

12. Tobacco 21

A movement in the United States is raising the age of sale of tobacco to 21. While valiant in effort, it both restricts 18-year-old adults from products (e-cigs, snus, etc.) that can help them quit smoking and shows little progress to reduce smoking rates.

The Consumer Advocates for Smoke Free Alternatives Association (CASAA) released this statement about “Tobacco 21” laws:

CASAA Tobacco 21 policy statement: “Including low-risk alternatives in T21 laws is unwise, misleading”

There’s lack of enforcement

Consumer group THR4Life has this Tobacco 21 Tool Kit

As Senator Steve Linthicum (R – Oregon) puts it,

 “freedom from responsibility” will enable more state intervention for many years to come.

The Senator’s Op-Ed is here:

Smoking age law simply more nanny state

Tobacco 21 laws enacted are showing smoking increases with laws that includ vapor products.

Electronic Cigarette Age Restrictions May Drive Teens to Traditional Cigarettes

Here, a study showed “Increasing the minimum legal purchase age  (MLPA) to 21 years in NYC did not accelerate reductions in youth tobacco use any more rapidly than declines observed in comparison sites.”

Impact of New York City’s 2014 Increased Minimum Legal Purchase Age on Youth Tobacco Use.

From Robert Morgan:

Harm Reduction Drives Younger Vapers, Not Flavors

Brad Rodu discusses the Synar Amendment:

“Beginning in 1997, Washington required states to report underage sales via the Synar Program (here).  The latest Synar data shows that 9.6% of retailers were noncompliant in 2013.  The FDA also conducts compliance checks of tobacco retailers.  In 2016, the FDA reported a noncompliance rate of 11% (here).  The FDA should focus on this far more dangerous illegal cigarette sales issue, rather than obsessing over e-cigarettes. “

FDA Aims at Wrong Target in Effort to Protect Teens

Also, Brian Fotjik has this to say:

Legislation To Raise Tobacco (And E-Cigarette) Age Is Unnecessary, Risky Public Health Implications of Raising the Minimum Age of Legal Access to Tobacco Products


13. Withholding information:

Being restricted by law (I’m not as a consumer) is not an easy task for shops to contend with. Shops cannot say e-cigarettes could help ‘quit smoking’, or they’re safer than…

“We argue that omitting key health relevant information for current or prospective consumers represents a kind of quarantine of health-relevant information”

Withholding differential risk information on legal consumer nicotine/tobacco products: The public health ethics of health information quarantines


Let’s get this out of the way

14. Nicotine “addiction”

Ignored since 2011, Hanan Frenk and Reuven Dar submitted this to the Harm Reduction Journal:

“We show that the nicotine addiction model presented in this chapter, which closely resembles its 22 years old predecessor, could only be sustained by systematically ignoring all contradictory evidence.”

If the data contradict the theory, throw out the data: Nicotine addiction in the 2010 report of the Surgeon General

This shows “The effects of nicotine on the brain are similar to those of sugar, salt, exercise, and other harmless substances and events. “There are so many findings that conflict so starkly with the view that nicotine is addictive that it increasingly appears that adhering to the nicotine addiction thesis is only defensible on extra-scientific grounds.”

Nicotine as an Addictive Substance: A Critical Examination of the Basic Concepts and Empirical Evidence

Also: IS Nicotine Addictive?

Also: A comparison of the abuse liability and dependence potential of nicotine patch, gum, spray, and inhaler.

Also: Are there other chemicals that cause addiction in tobacco?
MAIO’s?

(They modified their link to not show this)

This is what the link shows now:


15. HIGHER nicotine levels are SAFE.

A new study shows higher nicotine levels are safe – “nicotine on its own, outside of tobacco products, has limited addictive potential, and that higher doses are safe and well tolerated

Here’s the link:

Trying to quit smoking? New research suggests higher levels of nicotine may help



Let’s get this out of the way

16. Second-hand vapor

From the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the National Institute for Occupational Safety and Health :

“We evaluated concerns about exposure to vaping-related chemicals in a vape shop. Exposure to flavoring chemicals (diacetyl, 2,3-pentanedione, acetaldehyde), formaldehyde, nicotine, and propylene glycol were all below occupational exposure limits.”

That is here:

Evaluation of Chemical Exposures at a Vape Shop


17. Anti -Freeze

It is not anti-freeze. Simply absurd. As of the publishing of this post, the well respected American Academy of Pediatrics is still eluding to ‘anti-freeze’ as an ingredient on their ‘quick facts’ section here.

Propylene Glycol in E-Cigarettes – Is PG Dangerous to Inhale?

18. Battery safety

Battery Safety: E-cigarettes


Battery safety continued

If you’re in the industry: Responsibility.

James Jarvis joins Shane Thompson of Battery Solutions in Miami, Florida at the Vapevent – to explain battery safety.


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Lowering nicotine in cigarettes is a gateway to smoking

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Lowering nicotine levels in cigarettes is the idea. That’s the idea. That’s going to get people to “quit smoking”. This is insane. Instead of the US Government taking tobacco use by the balls by focusing on less harmful alternatives – they are playing a slow and never-ending game of badminton with tobacco.

This is beyond a hot mess, as their claim of “480,000” lives or whatever the made up number is, is supposed to be the focus:

Less tobacco use. Less harm.

It seems, for them, that number isn’t high enough. They want more. Don’t get me started on “the children™.

What the FDA is saying to the public is – cigarettes will be “less addictive”:

FOCUS.

Instead of taking people away from tobacco or directing them to other viable alternatives like snus or e-cigarettes that work, there’s a flashy neon sign pointing directly at tobacco over government and tobacco-funded & sponsored heads.

It makes complete fiscal sense, business as usual.


Lowering nicotine in cigarettes is a gateway to smoking funding.

Out in California the wild, wild west, pompous ass Stanton “Puff-N-Stuff” Glantz is digging a hole by pretending experts were blindsided and stunned of tobacco companies knowing nicotine replacement therapies snake oil didn’t work without counseling, and boldly claims all nicotine reduction therapies (NRT) should be regulated:

“Our study shows that by not regulating nicotine in all tobacco products, including NRT, the FDA could be walking into a trap.”


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Meanwhile, the Food & Drug Administration (FDA) is on a mesmerising path propaganda campaign convincing the public that “lower nicotine cigarettes” that the FDA, in part, financed, is being hailed by many as a “game changer”.

No, it isn’t. Keep smoking. Same game.


You don’t see signs like this any more.

designated smoking area

Target? More smokers.

If the goal of the federal government is to lower tobacco use, wouldn’t tobacco be taken out of the equation?

Well, no. Get that silly thought out of your head. They can’t do that anyway.

No need to stock up, there’ll be plenty of tobacco to smoke in the future.


Government Approved

This effort will be another of those “governmnent approved” (and financed) methods that will fail miserably, while smokers, who are not yet being told the truth, will smoke.

In this Rstreet article, Carrie Wade & Clive Bates explain there are all sorts of problems with this debaucle.

Reducing nicotine in cigarettes raises all sorts of problems

If you use “government approved” methods, you’ll have around a 93%+ chance of returning to tobacco. While I’m not an “expert”, I’ll assume in advance the failure rate will remain the same with cigarettes having “low levels” of nicotine.


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Lets Make It Happen!

Matt Myers certainly is no stranger to creating back room deals.

Much to my surprise expectations, Matt Myers and The Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids “a leading force in the fight to reduce tobacco use” is publicly on board with tobacco use.

I’m waiting for the Lung, Heart, Cancer and other political front groups to hop on board the “please keep smoking” train while Mr. Myers and his front group already have a seat in the dining car, exclaiming “Let’s make it happen“.


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Not surprisingly, Myers friends over at Philip Morris are very excited.

They’re at a boring badminton game and no one’s keeping score… but there is definitely cheering.

Think of the children™.

 

Added 8/23/17:

Brad Rodu:

Negligible Evidence of Radical Nicotine Reduction Benefit

 


Think it’s about the children?

Related:

“most e-cigarette experimentation does not turn into regular use, and levels of regular use in young people who have never smoked remain very low.”

Cumulatively these surveys collected data from over 60,000 young people.

Young People’s Use of E-Cigarettes across the United Kingdom: Findings from Five Surveys 2015–2017

“Nicotine dependence is not a significant mechanism for e-cigarettes’ purported effect on heavier future conventional smoking among young adults.”

Evaluating the Mutual Pathways among Electronic Cigarette Use, Conventional Smoking, and Nicotine Dependence.


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Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

 

Save

Save

Lying BASTARDS.

leno

SB140. I’ll jump on the bandwagon.


I’d LOVE to gloat. I’d love to put this pie in Mr. Leno’s face.

I’d LOVE to take Mr. Leno & Professor GlANTZ to breakfast and explain to them that their efforts are implying to others that this is tobacco,

only for their greed of contributions & funding as seen HERE.

Their efforts are costing lives. Their efforts are deterring people from trying to stop smoking.

MANY were involved in this particular bill. But I digress, as I often do in the vaping world.


Update 5.30.2016:

Clueless Legislators Deter Smokers From Vaping


What I see: It’s important to have taxes, but not for saving lives.

What Mr. Leno tweeted in January.

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What I see: It’s ensuring that there’s taxes like tobacco, but not for saving lives and taking people away from tobacco.

What Mr. Leno tweeted in April.

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What I see: This is a MUST position. Regulation is necessary!

It’s IMPORTANT! Imagine!!!! The next generation being lost to toxic nicotine!!!! CHILDREN!!!!!!!!

What Mr. Leno tweeted June 2nd.

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What I see: Now there’s concern, with false statements that “children” are important.

What Mr. Leno Tweeted on July 7th.

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THEN suddenly , Mr. Leno and various organizations find there’s no tax on tobacco, and it becomes unimportant and dangerous. Really????? Imagine that. Here’s just ONE example. Removing the ability to TAX e-cigarettes suddenly DEFEATED the bill? lenobreathe


It wasn’t about children. It wasn’t about addiction. It wasn’t about health. It was about revenue. Imagine the resources, cash & public FUNDS to go at this with such a fever, and then just let it drop. Imagine what every politician is doing when they’re “against” e-cigarettes.

Update 7/19/15

Now that there’s taxes on e-cigarettes redefined and his way- suddenly it’s important again: http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201520162SB5


They’re coercing the public into believing their fairy tales for revenue. Legallly. Imagine the lives they are affecting in the process.

Well. I question your integrity you greedy LYING bastards. You want people to smoke. You WANT Revenue. It’s a PONZI SCHEME


We have proof e-cigs are safer. We have science they refuse to recognize for their own agendas. Ecigarette-Research.Org


Vaping and e-cigarettes take us away from tobacco. Politicians & organizations like Breathe California are looking to replace funds from declining sales of tobacco.

““I no longer believe in it. None of my sponsors believe in it … I dissociate myself from it,” Leno said.

http://vapeaboutit.com/californias-e-cigarette-bill-sb-140-dropped-by-author-sen-mark-leno/

I want you to be pissed off this is happening in the United States. I want you to be pissed off THIS is happening WORLDWIDE


 

I want you to know M.O.V.E is also a great organization.


Consumers: I want you to be aware, look on the right & left of this blog. Join a group. Advocate and make some NOISE. Surveys. Polls. I want you PISSED off & well aware. DO Something.


Vendors:  YOU have the audience to make a difference, or you are Guilty By Association.


This fight is NOWHERE near over. This is ongoing. Governments and Organizations. They support the following options. Taxing. Regulating. Restricting. Banning. Who benefits?


I want you STEAMING mad. I want you to do what you can. I contribute with this blog. Surveys. EVERYONE’S actions are important. I’m nobody. I do what I can. MANY do – We’re. Fighting For LIVES..


I want you to do what this Doctor says: fight


What’s it cost to vape? Great question. What’s your life worth? I want you and those who DON’T know any better yet to be ABLE to Keep ON #Vaping On.

 

Kevin.