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Vaping In The News – February 2nd, 2019

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“The largest threat to Public Health is an informed consumer.”

Vaperatti: Lawsuit for the Win, Ban Opposition for the Loss ~ Researchers Must Listen To Vapers ~ FDA knew stop smoking product clinical trials not science-based ~ You Don’t Know Nicotine ~ Children in vape shops ~ Senator Burr (R-NC), much more than menthol cigarettes ~ Unacceptable Behavior by Tobacco Control Researchers ~ In case you missed it ~ Time flies ~

Vaperatti: Lawsuit for the Win, Ban Opposition for the Loss

The ‘fight’ seems to be consistently putting out fires.

The definition of nicotine as tobacco (it isn’t), Nicotine addiction without tobacco and MAOI’s (it isn’t), and gateways (that don’t exist). If you’re interested, opinion

Also see:

Vaperatti: Lawsuit for the Win, Ban Opposition for the Loss

Speaking of listening

Dr. Charles A. Gardner, Director of Health Science and Technology, has an interesting take on listening to (*gasp*) us!

Researchers must listen to Vapers

FDA knew stop smoking product clinical trials not science-based

What? Really? Why I thought…. well…. never mind.

FDA knew stop smoking product clinical trials not science-based

You Don’t Know Nicotine

Speaking of #nicotine, a new film in the works “You Don’t Know Nicotine” is already very close to it’s initial 1st goal with 296 supporters. This independent film has (so far) raised $44,612, and is now featured as a Project We Love” by Kickstarter.

This is about all aspects of nicotine.

To find out more, here’s the link: You Don’t Know Nicotine.

Children in vape shops

While understanding the ‘concern’, I put this photo under a tweet of Dr. Gottlieb expressing his concerns for children.

To my surprise, and her arrogance, I see this.

More here in her tweet, including followups in this link

She’s seen toddlers and teens inside in vape shops (not necessarily buying products). If the parents were smoking, those toddlers would be exposed to… oh never mind. After looking, surprise, she did a study I’ll link with my standard ‘do not link‘.

For a perspective, this blog has mentioned concerns of air quality before:

At: Ice arenas , indoor motocross events, with Clive Bates at a vape convention, and of course, this vape shop.

Laundry products… Scented Candles, idiotic tweets…

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Senator Burr (R-NC), much more than menthol cigarettes

Senator Burr takes the Food and Drug Administration to task – from menthol cigarettes to the “tobacco control act”, to children unable to purchase adult prodcts, to adult choice and… well, I won’t spoil it for you, but I haven’t seen a Senator fired up about this topic in some time.

I HIGHLY suggest you watch this (34 minute) video…

…or at least read an article!

Unacceptable Behavior by Tobacco Control Researchers

I barely believe tha….. never mind.

Unacceptable Behavior by Tobacco Control Researchers

In Case You Missed it

You can nod in agreement here with the Surgeon General

Dr. Gottlieb states: “e-cigs can help currently addicted adult smokers quit; and improve their health.” You can see the study here.

Or Jim covered it here. Dave covered it here.

Time Flies

I realized yesterday four years have passed since releasing the results of the Vaping Truth Survey. Thinking of Charle’s blog above and listening to vapers… After all, we’re supposed to take their word for all things health, why can’t they take ours?

When I made the survey, I barely knew a soul and didn’t know there even was a ‘vaping community’. I appreciate anyone who took the survey, I appreciate all who were behind it from the start.

Little did I know – four years later, we’re still trying to Change The Conversation.

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Can you quit smoking with patches and gums?

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CAN you quit smoking with patches and gums?

Are attempts with these quit smoking products successful? Can you find success rates for them? Do they work? Can you quit smoking? I’m sure there are a few who will say yes. I say it is a deceptive practice to say you can.

In fact, the practice is on the smoker with an average of THIRTY tries.

That’s right.

“Understanding that for many smokers it may take 30 or more quit attempts before being successful may assist with clinical expectations.”

Estimating the number of quit attempts it takes to quit smoking successfully in a longitudinal cohort of smokers

To quit smoking with any approved method is a challenge. Why is that?  Can you quit with Nicorette® patches and gums? I asked, not so innocently, for success rates with Nicorette® product(s). I was given an 800 number to get personalized attention.  Has anyone ever thought to ask as they were purchasing their product? I’m always asking silly rhetorical questions. It’s a hobby.

Will quitting be successful for you?

If they were as successful as commercials and graphics are intended to make you “feel” by helping people quit smoking, wouldn’t they say so immediately? Give me something, like a 94% satisfaction rate. 85% of our customers are smoke-free. Repeat the successful rates of the product to potential customers, not the success of repeat customers trying again. Fine, I’m reaching for the perverbial stars, I suppose.

I’m guessing a 7% success rate.

What are success rates for Nicorette® patches and gums? I don’t know. Nicorette® evidently doesn’t either. It is that time of year, with New Years Eve coming up, ads will be convincing you that you can succeed. Keep trying. Do your best. Their subtle guilt trip illusions are coming.

I asked  “What are the success rates with your product” directly to Nicorette®,  made by Glaxo-Smith Kline on Twitter. I didn’t think it would be a hard question.

Not that Glaxo-Smith Kline would ever do anything to deter any other method of…..

Can you quit smoking?

People spend hours looking up the reviews on the latest appliance they’re thinking about purchasing, but spend 30 seconds deciding on an “approved” method, because you know, if it isn’t an approved method, it must be (bad, dangerous, unproven, deceitful, not taxable, pharma’s idea) just plain wrong.

There are times in some smokers lives where they either choose to quit smoking, or because of various reasons, want to quit. In my instance, I switched to vaping accidentally. I had, however, tried the patches and gums years before and they just didn’t work.

I didn’t even think to ask the doctor about success rates, I assumed they worked. So does the rest of the world. I’d like to see success rates after 6 months, 1 year, heck, call me crazy, 5 years – with relapse rates. (With all that data-driven stuff people like to blab about). Implying that it works isn’t enough any more. Proof by assertion isn’t enough.

How about real world stuff… still waiting.

I’ll direct you here:

Whistleblower sues GlaxoSmithKline over nicotine product

I am guiding you to this by Amy Renshaw from Vanderbilt University:

The Real Story Behind The Nicotine Patch and Smoking Cessation

DO they work? This article stated “the most rigorous long-term study” said no”.

Mine, where, ~dare I say~ patches and gums do not work because you are not addicted to nicotine itself. You are possibly addicted to the other chemicals or chemical reactions within smoking tbacco, but nicotine “addiction” without tobacco simply does not exist. Period.

There is no data or science showing nicotine “addiction” without tobacco and MAOI’s.

It’s like I’m a mind reader… really….

In fact, (added 12/21/17)

Why Is Smoking Addictive? It’s Probably Not Just Nicotine, Despite What We’ve Been Told For Years

Then this came up 12/22/17:

Nicotine patches and medications aren’t enough to quit smoking, a study finds

Nicotine is not addictive.

I rephrased my question, at the time of publishing this blog, there was no response.

My guess is a 93% failure rate.

Don’t take my word for it.

The patches and gums “may, could, might” work. I would say percentages of success are 7%, and I’m being very optimistic with that. For your own sanity, call the company and ask them about success rates. Ask your doctor. Let me know how they respond.

Here’s one (2009) with “effectiveness”… (Thanks, Jenny!)

Effectiveness and safety of nicotine replacement therapy assisted reduction to stop smoking: systematic review and meta-analysis

One with the Patch (1993)

Effectiveness of a nicotine patch in helping people stop smoking

What about Zyban or Chantix?

Pfizer’s quit-smoking Chantix fails study in adolescent smokers

From my survey:

https://atomic-temporary-76342073.wpcomstaging.com/2015/03/08/doctors-orders-take-your-medicine-vaping-over-chantix-zyban/

One with e-cigs (Thanks, Elaine!)

EffiCiency and Safety of an eLectronic cigAreTte (ECLAT) as Tobacco Cigarettes Substitute: A Prospective 12-Month Randomized Control Design Study

Another with e-cigs (Thanks, Jenny!)

Electronic Cigarettes As a Smoking-Cessation Tool

Effectiveness of Pharmaceutical Smoking Cessation Aids (Thanks, Skip!)

“pharmaceutical aids for smoking cessation, despite strong evidence for efficacy from randomized trials, have not been effective at increasing successful quitting”

Effectiveness of Pharmaceutical Smoking Cessation Aids in a Nationally Representative Cohort of American Smokers

I don’t want Nicorette feeling singled out, I also asked Pfizer quite a while ago:

 

Added 01/01/18

Smokers Willing to Try E-Cigarettes More Successful at Smoking Less, Study Says

Ask your government, they’d tell you, because they care, that every try counts.

Speaking of timing

Here’s Carl V. Phillips with his latest timely post over at The Daily Vaper:

Science Lesson: Smoking Cessation Is Not Medical Treatment

 

You can see here what the FDA charts with all “approved” methods here:

Table Data: FDA Approved Drug

Added 2/01/2018

Easiest Way to Quit Smoking

This is pretty awesome.

Not only does this wonderful company love you as a group, they are also ready to give you their “personalized attention”.

Easiest Way to Quit Smoking

Added 6/14/2018

I didn’t know there was “preloading” of…. never mind:

No clear evidence that nicotine ‘preloading’ helps smokers to quit

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Trying to quit smoking? Patches, gums and “experts” are useless – without counseling you.

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Are you trying to quit smoking? Have you tried the patch or gum? Did you ask about the success rates when you did? Of course you didn’t. Did you have great expectations? Excellent. That’s what I experts want to hear.

If you’re afraid of trying e-cigarettes, I’m even more enthused. If you didn’t plan correctly, you’re up ten points over the others!

Let us move on quickly before you realize this is futile.

Are patches and gums useless?

Well…. of course not, unless you use them without “counseling“!

That’s also what tobacco companies wanted to hear as they welcomed you back. Also, there’s the public health “expert” sector trying to guilt and shame you, and they miss you as well.

Hang on. Steady yourself. The pharmaceutical companies – you forgot about them, didn’t you? I’ll keep the government out of this blog for time & space.

Did you plan for success?

Of course not. They know better than that.

Feeling a bit dizzy? Outstanding. It’s not your nicotine, you know –  or lack of nicotine intake making you feel that way. It’s them. Public health and organizations make you feel like insinuate you could succeed in your journey to not smoking. Then, of course, you fail.

Yep. Shame on you, too. You didn’t try hard enough! You didn’t plan!!!

Your failure? That’s what they’re counting on. It’s just around the corner.

Knock, knock.

So are your favorite cigarettes.

 

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Still didn’t plan for success?

Go on, now… make a commitment, set a date, get your choice of snake oil patches, gums or prescription medication – and once you didn’t, couldn’t or… well – failure is just a part of the process.

Don’t give up. PLAN!!!! Try again! Keep trying! Sure, the patch & gum have about a 7 % success rate, but – what do you care?

Why plan ahead? That would be silly. Half the time they give these ineffective methods away for free!!!

You will be held accountable.

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Ready?

You get ready, (nowadays, don’t forget your quit app so your friends can get in on the guilt giving sessons as well!)

Your favorite cigarette brand is waiting, your ash trays want to be dirty again.

Folks, this is 2017. Don’t you think by now there’d be a better way?

Smoke. Try to quit. Get “quit smoking aids”. Try. Fall short. Feel guilty and let them pretend to console you, but smoke again. Keep spending your money.

Nice businesses if you find the work in tobacco, public health or the pharmaceutical sectors, eh? Lack of success is their success.

Quit Attempts:

Attempts is what public health and the pharmaceuticals like. The more the merrier. Repeat business is key.

Lets take a quick peek at quit attempts:

quit attempts the vaper

 

Thank you to The Vaper for the above graphic!

What about side effects?

Public health says “ask your doctor if it’s right for you”. They never mention success rates, and you never ask.

I’ll let you ponder the side effects of the different “government approved” methods here:

Choose your method at the top here: FDA approved method.

Stunned?

What ABOUT nicotine?

Now, consider nicotine. A startling thing, nicotine. A scapegoat for all things tobacco.

Without tobacco and the MAOI’s, it is not addictive.

So, with all the fuss from some pie-filled mouth in California, (Puff-N-Stuff I affectionately call him) there’s this that inspired this impromptu blog….

Before I go stop trying to help you, I’d like to thank Gregory Conley of the American Vaping Association for this screenshot:

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This is why you’re here.

The Shady Link Between Big Tobacco and Nicotine Gum

Related:

Tobacco Industry Research on Nicotine Replacement Therapy: “If Anyone Is Going to Take Away Our Business It Should Be Us”

Oh… yeah, the counseling – like my title said…. Staying in business is hard.

The tobacco companies want to stay in business, and who can blame them. The pharmaceutical companies want to stay in business, and who could blame them?

I’ll blame tobacco control experts. Screw ’em. They know better.

Like my title said…. “experts”…are useless without patches & gum to offer. Don’t get me wrong – they mean well – they’ve got good intentions.

Don’t get me started on the Government tonight, they just want you to smoke.

Staying in business with any sense of relevance or truth, is hard.

 

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There is definitely more to come.

Keep ON #Vaping On.

Kevin

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